all right, so what i mean now from colorado is joe altman, host of the conservative daily podcast. joe, great to have you on the program with us. so it took 4 days from his arrest for public drive to officially be charged. what do you make of the charges that have been pressed against the telegram ceo? i think it's more just a broader overreach. you know, it was listening to what was happening beforehand and you start talking about the us and we would never do that. but the us talks about julian a saws, but the us is directly involved in what's happening with france right now. and has their feet or their finger on the fact that telegram is not doing what the us one of them. but do either why do you think mr. durham hasn't made a statement since his arrest? because he did walk out of the court after paying a $5000000.00 euro bell, but so far he hasn't said anything publicly. you know, i think he's in the state of shock at this point. i mean he's, he basically runs a platform. it's very difficult if you know anything about platform is very difficult to, to for moderation. there's alwa

american broadcast, trying to political commentator, jo altman, joe, thank you. all right, god bless you. all right, on air and online, we've got you covered for more on how prominent russian media and medical figures have reacted to the rest of pablo dress. you can head over to our website, archie, dot com, the kids correct down on ukrainian orthodox church followers is ramping up. one of the countries m p. 's, who last out at the religious band was later accused of assaulting a ukrainian law enforcement officer. then claims this family was almost kidnapped as they fled to europe. someone tried to kidnap my family, my mother and my wife and 2 small children were almost kidnapped from a hotel in europe yesterday. after the 1st unsuccessful attempts and the measures we took, they tried again at the airport as everything we know is based on the statement that art sounds we took posted on his telegram channel. yes, he claims that there wasn't, that's, hadn't said a kid, nothing that took place somewhere in europe. we didn't, we don't know where exactly you crazy in

altman. evercore founder and senior chairman. so -- >> joe, good morning. >> good to see you. good morning.he most likely outcome, and do you think that that vix high will, will that be it? it was over 50. do you think we've seen the worst? >> the first question in terms of the soft landing, joe, yes. i think that scenario is intact. and let's break it down. the labor market is slowing slightly but it's healthy. the unemployment rate didn't rise because of a drop in demand. it rose because of continued labor force expansion, which is a real plus, and the three-month average on job creation, monthly job creation is 170,000, which is a good number. the employment population ratio is at a the 22-year high. the participation rate is up. not down. it's a healthy job market. inflation is moving in the right direction. we all know that. three-month annualized pce, 2.3% almost where the fed wants it to be and growth is solid. looks to be in the 2%-plus range right now. so very healthy environment. soft landing intact. is the recession risk zero? no. goldman sachs has it at 25%. jpm has it at 359 pe