and in naguyevichi, there are franks there, we know it, franks, yes franks, and you know that, and francoould have been at the same time and a german and a pole and even talked about the fact that he might be a jew, but this is a borderline borderline situation, shevelov after all, so absolutely, i’ll tell you, you know, lipinsky, they were foreigners, from shiptyk, who of a certain time or foreigners or simulated ones, who from a certain time they are so... the situation is ukrainian, ukrainian identity, not even that identity, but the content of ukrainian identity, that they became ukrainians, aligned themselves with ukrainian, with ukrainian, with their demands, i may say so, you know, you may not know this, i know exactly who in my family was the first ukrainian, i remember, i established it, and it was my great-grandfather, he chose the same way, because we are all ukrainians without choice, we just don't remember it, maybe someone is lucky, because we were born once upon a time, we were the third, second, third generation, uh, fourth, who already were. ukraine, ukrainian, but i know