i would like to call out congressman steve womack, a republican, congressman was -- received the principles before honor last year and is the chairman of the west point visitors committee, the outside court for the organization, and i encourage you to reach out for him. in addition to pat ryan, a member of congress in the first-ever member of congress to represent west point as a constituent and is a west point alum. thank you for that comment in question. host: mike, cleveland, ohio, a veteran. caller: good morning. firstly, i would like to say, i'm a former marine. anyway, as i understand, there is a bill going through the united states senate concerning pain pills and the use of opioids. as it stands right now, any veteran with chronic injuries cannot receive any pain medication, and it actually had someone at the v.a. look at me and say, if you are not dying, we cannot help you get no pills, ok? as i understand it, there is a bill going to the senate to correct that. do you know the bill? guest: we will certainly look into it. we are actively involved and help pass over 150 laws, and ab

we worked incredibly hard for six or seven months steve womack and anita were the chairs. it was as thoughtful a process as i can remember going through. and also proposals a like we are talking about today about how to move the process. we never got 10 when you 10 of the 16 votes to get anything past that. never got 10 votes for anything. everybody at the end concluded it was not the process, it was the people. unless you have people committed to doing thett work and committd to making the system at work you can set up trigger mechanisms you can do biennial budgeting, all of these different things. because you can waive every one of those. but it was reallyon the question of people ought to be committed to the work for. >> hotties change the incentive structure so people are committed to the work? some of them might be malignant but not all of them areof malignant we have four and 35 in the house and 100 and the senate and presumably there are 1 enouh but the incentives are not aligned in the right way. so how do we change the incentive structure? >> i talked the other da

i would like to call out congressman steve womack, a republican, congressman was -- received the principlese honor last year and is the chairman of the west point visitors committee, the outside court for the organization, and i encourage you to reach out for him. in addition to pat ryan, a member of congress in the first-ever member of congress to represent west point as a constituent and is a west point alum. thank you for that comment in question. host: mike, cleveland, ohio, a veteran. caller: good morning. firstly, i would like to say, i'm a former marine. anyway, as i understand, there is a bill going through the united states senate concerning pain pills and the use of opioids. as it stands right now, any veteran with chronic injuries cannot receive any pain medication, and it actually had someone at the v.a. look at me and say, if you are not dying, we cannot help you get no pills, ok? as i understand it, there is a bill going to the senate to correct that. do you know the bill? guest: we will certainly look into it. we are actively involved and help pass over 150 laws, and about fi