, who's done with charlie mullins, who's finally leaving the country. pening to it. and this is a gene good afternoon jean, you say, well done charlie. i'm so sorry you're going. it doesn't pay sorry you're going. it doesn't pay to work hard in this country, right now. i tell my kids, don't buy a house. spend your money on holidays. and when you're older, stay at home with your hand out. right. okay, now let's move on to today's this afternoon's stories, shall we? today, incredibly marked two years since the death of britain's longest reigning monarch, queen elizabeth ii , and monarch, queen elizabeth ii, and the ascension of our current king, charles charles this morning attended church near balmoral to pay tribute to his late mum . so we're asking, what late mum. so we're asking, what is queen elizabeth's legacy ? two is queen elizabeth's legacy? two years on from that incredibly sad and tragic passing? joining me now is royal biographer nigel cawthorne and i've still got peter edwards and claire muldoon with me as well on the panel. but nigel, we're g

we will indeed. >> but first, britain's richest plumber , charlie mullins, has plumber, charlie mullins the new labour government. >> well, after paying £120 million in taxes over his lifetime, the millionaire entrepreneur says he won't let any more of his wealth go to the treasury. >> yes, mullins, who sold pimlico plumbers for £145 million. he plans to move his assets to spain and dubai, where he believes ambition is better rewarded and appreciated. >> well, delighted to say he's joining us now in the studio. founder of pimlico plumbers, charlie mullins obe. charlie. why, tom? why you're quitting britain is there. is this is this not a bit unpatriotic of you? >> well, you call it what you want , but i'm >> well, you call it what you want, but i'm just not. i'm moving abroad to protect my assets for my family. i mean, you know, they're going to increase inheritance tax, going to increase capital gains, you know, it's just destroying britain . it's, it's just not britain. it's, it's just not practical. no more to be here. and, you know, i've paid, they say, over 100 mil into the system.

charlie mullins appeared on gb news earlier today to discuss his plans to leave the uk.oing to avoid tax, but obviously on the basis of what labour want to introduce about increasing capital gains from 20% to 40 or 45%. so they're going to cut your profit down by half. they're also talking about the inheritance tax that may go up to 40%, yeah. i just think it's unacceptable. and i think that, you know, why why why should we sort of work hard and let them waste all our money? i'm not against paying into the system. what i am against is the way the money is being used, and, i'm just not prepared to put in any more. >> so for the great british debate, that's all i'm asking. are labour scaring off the people with the broadest shoulders? after all, they said they'd be carrying the heaviest burden. right. let's get the thoughts from my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. lizzie cundy, i come to you. >> yeah, totally. 4500 millionaires have already left britain for dubai in the last five months, and all my friends of any wea

well, charlie mullins is going and he's taking £120 million with him. okay? just one very successful businessman in this country. there'll be lots of others. and the other point i'd make is, is that they clearly hate old people. they hate pensioners. they've declared war on pensioners in all sorts of ways. and i think there's more to come. there's a possibility that they will withdraw the 25% that you get knocked off your council tax. if you're a single person and one third of single people in this country are widows who can't afford it. and there's also another fear they'll take away the free travel which old people depend on. it's pernicious. it's nasty, and it's really, really focused on those who are most vulnerable in our society. >> andy williams it was probably time for a change. it's been good for our democracy, perhaps to get the tories out. but you must be disappointed by labour's start. >> no. overall, i'm not at all. actually, i think they've made a reasonably good start. in fact, i think mostly they've made a very good start. i completely disagre

well, charlie mullins is going and he's taking £120 million with him. okay?he's just one very successful businessman in this country. there'll be lots of others. and the other point i'd make is, is that they clearly hate old people. they hate pensioners. they've declared war on pensioners in all sorts of ways. and i think there's more to come. there's a possibility that they will withdraw the 25% that you get knocked off your council tax. if you're a single person and one third of single people in this country are widows who can't afford it. and there's also another fear they'll take away the free travel which old people depend on. it's pernicious. it's nasty, and it's really, really focused on those who are most vulnerable in our society. >> andy williams it was probably time for a change. it's been good for our democracy, perhaps to get the tories out. but you must be disappointed by labour's start. >> no. overall, i'm not at all. actually, i think they've made a reasonably good start. in fact, i think mostly they've made a very good start. i completely dis

we're also going to be talking to mr charlie mullins. the daily mail today about why he's quitting this country, the country i love, he says he's going to be spending his time in spain and dubai taking all his assets out. he says keir starmer's socialist government is no good for people with a bit of aspiration, so we'll be delving into his reasons for leaving. >> it's fascinating. he's paid over £120 million in tax in his time running his business. in his many years in the uk and the uk has been quite an attractive place to do business, certainly since the 1980s we've had relatively low levels of tax compared to europe, but if the rumours are true in october's budget, if rachel reeves effectively doubles capital gains tax, they will. we'll go from having one of the most competitive taxes on on on starting businesses and growing businesses in europe to having the highest tax. >> and she will do that. and because because they don't consider people who earn money or profit from investments, stocks and housing as working people, they think

plus a picture of charlie mullins. i'm quitting britain to escape labour's war on wealth creators .y also going off on the junk food ban. junk food adverts banned before 9 pm. to take the weight off the nhs. hahaha.the take the weight off the nhs. hahaha. the mirror. okay, so this is the last paper for you exclusive amnesty castro. it says final insult, heartbroken families fury as sellers of knives used to kill their loved ones are given £350,000 in compensation for handing in the blades. firms that sell zombie knives have raked in 350 grand from an amnesty. knives have raked in 350 grand from an amnesty . despite from an amnesty. despite supplying these knives in several murders . apparently several murders. apparently grieving families obviously spoke of their, well, disgust at this. and i think they've got a point. but i suppose then the flip side is, well, if it gets the knives off the streets, look a difficult one to talk about, let's just go in on on this nanny state ban on junk food adverts. >> go on. keir starmer is sounding very authoritarian indeed.i sounding very authori

charlie mullins to marbella.re people who bring hundreds of millions of pounds in taxation in different ways to the uk economy. i know a friend who set up a great and very successful growing tax business in dubai, telling people how they can go there and get away with 0 or 1% tax. all of my life i've said you should pay the taxes in the country that you live in. you should be willing to support the economy that supports you for the first time in my life, i've been talking to people about changing that, about taking assets , taking businesses and assets, taking businesses and taking employees out of this country, because already the top 1% pay over 30% of the tax revenues, the top 10% pay over 60% of the tax revenues . this is 60% of the tax revenues. this is proper tall poppy syndrome cut the tallest poppies down to make the tallest poppies down to make the rest feel good. do we really not believe that if we lose those highest taxpayers, that the lowest are going to be burdened with more tax? wake up. that's just

i was reading that charlie mullins is going to sell off his £12 million property in london and put alls money into dubai and spain instead. i mean, it's depressing if true. >> well, we are seeing an exodus of millionaires, more than any other country in this part of the world, matching the sort of scale of millionaire exodus that india is experiencing. and china is experiencing. but perhaps we need to look to the countries that are having net import of millionaires and seeing what they're doing, because , i mean, they're doing, because, i mean, is it better or worse to have more millionaires in your economy? i think there are many in the labour party . there are in the labour party. there are many labour mps who have actually said that every billionaire is a policy failure, as if they don't want rich people in their country. well, if there are no rich people in the country, taxes are much, much higher on the people who aren't rich to then fund everything. >> you see people saying, you know, when someone tweets or notes that millionaires are leaving and that this might be bad for the ta

and founder of pimlico plumbers, charlie mullins, who believes the youth are lazier and you've had torlie , you've had have view, charlie, you've had have to run businesses and you've got to run businesses and you've got to employ people and you stand by that. do you? >> oh, undoubtedly. i mean, i'm not going by research. i'm going by experience. and there's no hesitation in that. the older workers are more keen to come in. they want to get out of the workplace. they don't use the monday and friday illness and a lot more reliable and a lot more sort of keener. i think in the workplace, i'm not knocking all the youngsters because there's some great youngsters out there that want to learn and get on, but a lot of them have now become so comfortable sitting at home doing the computer thing and just keeping the seat warm . and just keeping the seat warm. so yeah, for me, there's no way. i'm not sure where they get this research from, but no, i'm like you. >> i thought it was the young we were to blame for this sort of thing these days. but oliver apparently not. >> no. good morning everyb

charlie mullins, who i've had on my show a few times, i know he's been on here. work from home. you've got to be there. so it does depend on that. my background, as you know, is as a lawyer and they basically divide up an hour into ten. so you get every six minutes you have to account for what you're doing. and that gets charged to a client. you work on. what i like is how effective you are. it's not about how much time you spend, but how effective you are. and that's the real reason people got to be careful, though, because working from home, what's going to happenis from home, what's going to happen is that more and more things will get automated. as you know, i speak around the world as a futurist, and we talk about al and how that's going to take overjobs. about al and how that's going to take over jobs. and about al and how that's going to take overjobs. and goldman sachs said 300 million jobs are going to be lost to ai. sachs said 300 million jobs are going to be lost to al. the more that you say, i'm not going to go to work today. well, that's all right. t

and also the daily mail quotes charlie mullins, the founder of pimlico plumbers. million penthouse, and he says he's quitting the country because he's not going to stand for the tax increases that he's going to be foisted upon him under a labour government. so this is serious. i mean , there's this is serious. i mean, there's just been so many stories now. it's too big a, you know, it's the momentum's growing, too many stories about people threatening to leave. >> and i think, i think there are a lot of, a lot of younger people are leaving as well. they're they're not even beginning their careers here. they're going to work abroad because it's easy to get better opportunities abroad than it is here. and we will look at other stories today that these tax cuts aren't just affecting the very wealthy, they're affecting people on very, very low incomes as well . pensioners are worried as well. pensioners are worried about, you know, keeping their bills, keeping their heating on because of the cuts to the winter fuel allowance. >> well, yeah, that's in the sunday expres