if i add records to the wisdom of flannery o'connor. she bemoaned the fact that today the world is going through something like a dark night of the soul. the world in its increasingly secular condition is losing its capacity to see the presence of god and at the stirrings of grace. as well as conversion experiences. >> hold that thought and we will take a brief break. we will be back shortly to talk about faith, fiction and film. >>> we are talking with dr. margaret turek and we are talking about evangelizing. that is not only preaching the christian message but seeing the christian truth and finding unexpected ways in which to see it. you mentioned flannery o'connor and her encapsulation as a writer was -- >> she said at one point that the primary gift that she needed as a catholic writer was the gift of prophetic vision. the vision is the capacity to see and see prophetically. by which she meant not the capacity to read the future but the capacity to see what is hidden. and again, for her it is primarily the hidden presence of god. ou