of course, there was no access to the sources, this is another the aspect i will mention is that jace maysat the beginning of his work, he actually also expressed such a claim to ukraine. those eyewitnesses of the famine that he recorded, that he met for the conquest book, he said that they were too emotional, and of course when he got into the problem and did what he did, of course he didn't think either, but for an average european who did not live in that era, he could not understand how the state could kill its citizens despite everything... that there was a very powerful propaganda about heaven on earth, as these people say, this it was perceived as, as biased testimony, you understand, by the way, by the way, thank you, this is an interesting point, how would you explain that, in principle , the witnesses did not want to talk for decades, what about the holodomor, well, my parents were witnesses of the holocaust , but they didn't want to talk about it, well, it's scary, you... you have to immerse your child, who you care about, you protect him, into another world where there are very