professor jason stanley is back with me to discuss his new book. ol the future. jason, i would have had you on the show to talk about this book anyway. we were planning to. yet it is so dove tailed with exactly the things we're talking about in today's presidential election. this concept of rewriting history. it has been tried and true. it has worked the world over and donald trump isn't as incoherent as some of his speeches are. he knows this. you can rewrite history. repeat fallacies and some people will believe you and perhaps lots of people will believe you. >> that's right. trump is running this election on the basis of great replacement theory. the idea that what made america great was its white christian founders. christianity. whiteness. men. these are the things that make america great. if you have a history curriculum, that sort of obliterates the agency of black americans. that obliterates the history of xenophobia. you don't know about the ways in which immigrants or how hitler picked up those ideas. if you just learn about the great ach

joining me now, jason stanley, professor of philosophy at yale university and author of books. also with us staff writer for the atlantic and a msnbc contributor, author of the book romney : a reckoning, which is now out in paperback. thank you for being with us. mckay, good to see you as well. let us talk about this. donald trump, this is working for him. it is dangerous rhetoric. it is hateful at a level that we are unused to have been accustomed donald trump for last eight years. what you think is going on? >> back to plato's republic. tyrant so fear and promise that they represent themselves as the nations protector. this is a playbook that is as old as democracy itself trump is trying to distract attention from the wealthy corporate elites whose taxes he is promising to cut and blame, instead, the inequality we are seeing in the united dates on those who also suffer from that inequality. it is straightforwardly incoherent. immigrants are supposedly these criminals, who are coming here to do criminal enterprises and are lazy in taking money. somehow, they get it together to

and joining us is jason stanley who is a professor of philosophy.riting the past to control the future. >> we all just preordered this book. weight, do you have the books? let's order a them now. >> it is such an important conversation. in many respects, the country finds itself at a crossroad that i don't know if they fully appreciate. we are so far removed from world war ii and fascism and not see is him that generationally speaking, it's a little cloudy. talk about where you want to go in this moment and why it is important. using what we just heard from former president donald trump and leveling it up in such a way that it is consumed by a lot of americans. >> that's right. my book is about education and vladimir putin recently said that wars are won by teachers. when you have a tax on voting rights and voting, they happen at the same time is a tax on schools. so, the attacks on critical race theory, for example. the heritage foundation said it is critical race theory and restricting voting. that is because when you attack schools, you attack th

michelle goldberg, dean obeidallah, jason stanley, thank you.e your time this evening. before we go, we do want to give you a quick update on the breaking news out of kentucky. an active shooter situation is still underway in laurel county, north of the city of london. officials say numerous people have been shot. the suspect is still on the run, as we understand it. that suspect, 32-year-old joseph couch, is considered armed and dangerous. people are urged to stay inside. according to local police officials a portion of i-75 is closed in both directions for the investigation. we will follow this story and let you know more as it develops. thank you for making time for us. make sure to come back tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we will speak with steven richer, the recorder of maricopa county, arizona. he is fighting a lawsuit from stephen miller's legal group that claims he and arizona county recorders are failing to keep noncitizens from voting in november. until then i am ayman mohyeldin in new york. have a good night. night. leo's number 2's a

. >> not the same argument but i talked to jason stanley an hour ago we said these debates, these protestsings we are seeing about democracy is an indication that democracy is healthier than we think because not only should be fighting to preserve democracy at our grandchildren should as well. i appreciate you being here thank you. >>> we just got information into the newsroom a moment ago. former president donald trump just posted on sue's -- tooth social in all capitals i hate taylor swift. that is all i am going to say about that. i think that is a bad thing to treat.>>> later today -- hosting an event in florida to highlight how climate change is affecting insurance prices. a situation you may not know much about but you should because the climate crisis is about to up and the entire insurance industry and cost you a lot more money if you can get property insurance coverage at all. i love taylor swift. lor swift. listen. horsepower keeps you going, but torque gets you going. ♪ ♪ [ engine revving ] oh now we're torquin'! the dodge hornet r/t. the totally torqued-out crossover. a bend wi

and the book's author, jason stanley, joins us now.osophy at yale university. it's great to have you on. in the book, you emphasize the importance of an independent education system in a functioning democracy. you write, in part, this, exposing a nation to the complex history of its past is not just a form of protection against fascists and demagogues, it is also, as my father would say, as essential prerequisite for civic compassion. democracy requires a common shared reality, including a common understanding of the past. civic compassion furthers that understanding. without such an understanding, one cedes power to hierarchy or, potentially, an autocrat. democracy is an ideal. it is an ideal in which every citizen has political equality rooted in the recognition of all people's full humanity. and realizing the ideal of political equality is impossible without understanding -- without an understanding of who has been denied it and why. i would love for you to speak further on that excerpt. also, i'd like to point out that the republic

back with the and also join the conversation is stanley, author of the new book erasing history how fascists rewrite the past to control the future. jason ourselves in. you have donald trump refusing to condemn russia for the aggression that it is doing and barely making the critical statement about what vladimir putin is doing to ukraine. what you think vladimir putin was thinking as he was watching this week unfold with volodymyr zelenskyy and donald trump side- by-side? >> putin, a war criminal, wanted war criminal was very pleased. trump, his friendship for putin is very important to him. and when you really want someone to be your friend, they can manipulate you. putin's friendship is too important for trump to sacrifice. this is what harris said in the debate and this is what we're seeing here. >> i thought it was a strong point from vice president that she outlined all these objectives and said those are the objectives that vladimir putin wants. >> think of the brazenness of zelenskyy going to trump. he cares more about his own people that he cares about himself. he does not mind going to trump , who obviously has insulted him. t