if you look at the conviction of judith ward, if we look at the mcguire 7, the youngest of those children convicted was 13 years old and scarred for life by his prison experiences. mcguire recording in his book, my father's watch, and this was terrifying time to be irish in britain, and you had the sense that, okay, they happen to latch to those irish men, but if it hadn't been those, they'd have found others, and i think from having been quite a settled and contented and hard-working immigrant community, it became fearful and somewhat paranoic irish community for quite a long period of time, certainly into the 1990s. this would have been a period uh, when you had lot of tridsman. building the economy of britain at the time, i mean if we're talking about builders, tradesmen, bricklers, there would have been vast employment throughout britain at the time, and and obviously this this would have been badly affected, but i'm sure it also had an effect on the economy at the time, also has there been any research into that there has been spoke about much detail, it's under acknowledged and unde