pershing person, former senior security policy analyst and the office of the us secretary of defense, mike maloof, food r, t. and so lensky is planning to use captured territories as leverage and negotiations with moscow is didn't to feel i think he's delusional piece is involved in wishful thinking. because the reality is that why that was, it was indeed a surprise incursion. reality is that many, most of those troops have been rounded up, either killed or, or taken prisoner to say that he's going to take that territory and try to increase others, i think is uh, wishful thinking on his part. and it's a said he's just delusional. he has no way of holding onto it if he thinks is going to make a mass comp and, and come to the negotiating table. i think um, president clinton has made that very clear that it's that it's non negotiable and that there will be no negotiations until the ukrainians are gone. and when you look at what it's strategic, implications in value was extremely limited. and you have to question what the motive was, because there's no way that they can continue to keep the troops co