she's an assistant professor of international affairs at the university of pittsburgh graduate school in a public and international affairs. could that be with us, melinda, and unprecedented attack? and now we're hearing a potential new explosions. i wanted a how can an attack of this precision and scale they organized? again, i think the assumption that this is a state sponsored operation probably must be correct given both the geographic extent, the technical sophistication and just the orchestration of the explosions and cells . much less than sort of on the ground intelligence required to infiltrate multiple types of devices. so that, that has the, what agents are using does it surprise you that someone has been able to august, right and complete this task? it doesn't surprise me. i think it is sort of unprecedented and its scale. and especially now that it's extending to multiple types of devices. but i think the orchestration is meant to send a message that uh, that the, the sponsor, probably israel here is, is able to sort of reach into head beloved organization. no matter what