message to the masses and i don't particularly see any super practical benefit from it, well, as volodymyr vetrovychn his facebook page. this is a step from moscow, well, let's take it that way, by the way, you mentioned, mr. andriy, how 20 years ago, or 20 years ago, uh, 20, 30, 30 years, my god, time goes by so fast, 30 years ago it was discussed this whole idea is a step, viktor yushchenko, by the way, was then the head of the national bank, and he argued for the idea of ​​introducing a step, but i understand that kuchma did not dare to do it, and because it was really such a... march, there would have been a demarche from the side of ukraine, and it did not happen, well, let's just say it, it just sounded very exotic for kuchma, his party, and yushchenko then even made samples, and now they are highly valued by collectors, there is a very small number, but a trial batch was made, now this one chess is worth some crazy thousands of hryvnias, yes, yes, yes, and we remember that 100 years ago, well more than 100 years ago, the shah was present ukrainian people's republic, therefore, in principle, l

program on telespresso, vitaly portykov is with you, we are discussing with our guests, here volodymyr vetrovychople's deputy of ukraine and oleg sahakyan, political scientists and co-founder of the national platform for sustainability and cohesion, we are talking with them about how the political landscape of europe, this europe, is changing , which we so long for, now we will devote some time to the polish ultra-right, join them to our conversation. political scientist and journalist marik, welcome to our studio, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the hero, oleg sahakyan was just talking about the fact that in poland there are liberals, and moderate left and moderate and right, not even moderate right, so that the party of law and justice can be said to be an ultra-right party, it positions itself in the european parliament, they are all on the side of ukraine, the government of law and justice helps ukraine. the president of law and justice is a tough defender of ukrainian positions in europe, but it is not let's say the confederation party is hinder