now, joining me to discuss this is the senior research fellow at brightblue, btec stashevsky. i got that right. >> yes that's right. >> yes that's right. >> welcome to the show. and the former political editor, of course, at the sun, trevor kavanagh and gb news senior political editor , nigel nelson. political editor, nigel nelson. gentlemen, welcome to the studio. bartek, let's start with you. we're taught all the time. or at least we hear all the time in the media. we should be ashamed of all of the aforementioned things. we should be ashamed of what britain did in world war ii. actually, we're the nazis now. we should be ashamed of slavery despite the fact we abolished it. and we should be ashamed of our role on the world stage in the empire and the days of the colonial times. and yet when you actually ask ethnic minorities, they disagree with that. >> well , i've never heard >> well, i've never heard anybody say that we are the nazis now, but they should be proud. >> and it's right at parliament square and the pro—palestine protest on chief. i'll tell you, it happens all t