nancy rosenblum is this senator joseph clarke, professor of ethics and politics and government emerita at harvard university. her previous books include good neighbors the democracy of everyday life in america. it's a great book, and with russell muirhead a lot of people are saying new conspiracism and the assault on democracy. her newest book is on governing the on the administrative states and the politics of chaos with who was supposed to be here today. but could not join us. ruy teixeira is someone i've been reading for 25 years. she's contributing columnist the washington post co-founder and politics editor of the liberal patriot newsletter, a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. he is coauthor of a number of books, among them the emerging democratic majority, forgotten majority, and most recent, i believe. where have all the democrats gone? give him a round of applause. i don't i don't sling takes on weekends. so i'm i'm i'm going to pass it over to you guys. i guess i just start with the question of how do we get here? election 2024. there's a of ways to interpret