"it's called mclean hospital in belmont, mass.e would get through our issues together." joe cataldo: michelle carter was trying to talk him out of it. go to mclean hospital. they will help you. she had nothing but resistance from conrad roy. andrea canning: one of the main points of your argument was that conrad roy had tried this before. he had researched various ways to take his own life, that this was not something that was just created by michelle carter. joe cataldo: right. michelle, for a year and a half, always tried to persuade him not to commit suicide. he always rejected her thoughts of staying alive. it wasn't until literally the last two weeks of his life when michelle finally endorsed his plan. i think that's where people have the biggest problem with this case is why. why would she encourage him? and she's supposed to be his friend. well, she came to the realization that he didn't want to live anymore, that he would only hate her. his words, i will only hate you if you tell somebody about my plan. andrea canning: whi