. >> i am here at stanley indoor bowls centre and community hub and some people around here are absolutely fuming , of course, absolutely fuming, of course, because i mean, they've put nothing into this country at all, but they're getting their living in hotels now. >> they're getting houses yet i've worked all my life and i've got a little bit of savings , so got a little bit of savings, so that's held against me. >> well he's right, isn't he.7 it's >> well he's right, isn't he? it's not fair. just look at what happened today. >> well the number for the whole of last year was 29,437. just in the last few minutes we have overtaken that number 29,451. >> you're paying for all of those people to have a warm bed and board this winter. meanwhile, starmer couldn't tell you what a woman is . woman is. >> no, no, no, i just a woman can have a penis. >> i don't think that discussing this issue in this way helps. >> and now we can't even tell you what a working person is. >> okay, so for someone who works but gets their income from assets as well, such as shares of property, are they a working pers

but as you can see, i am at the wonderful stanley indoor bowls centre and community hub here.lutely fantastic setting. we have got a little bit of an audience for us as well. i might introduce them to you later on, but right now i'm surrounded by some lovely people and i'm going to start with gail, who has ducked out of trying to teach me bowls later. more of that at 930. by the way, ihave more of that at 930. by the way, i have said that i am unteachable. but anyway, now, gail, you feel like pensioners are under attack a bit, don't you? >>i you? >> i think i do, very much so, and i really believe that if the pensioners knew when they voted what was going to happen, i don't think labour would have got in it seems to me that if you work all your life and you work hard and you save and everything else, it doesn't pay you to do that anymore. you get nothing, you get everything taken off. you . if they'd said taken off. you. if they'd said they were going to halve it, that wouldn't have been quite so bad . but it's a big that wouldn't have been quite so bad. but it's a big blow to