nigel nelson, gb news, senior political commentator, and trevor kavanagh, former political editor of you. let's face it, we're almost a hundred years in. the labour party don't seem to be able to get a decent headline out of anybody. can they do anything right? it started badly, and frankly, it just got worse. >> well, downing street is frantically scrambling now to portray this as an act of ruthless , decisive and resolute ruthless, decisive and resolute government when in fact it's an admission of complete chaos and failure in the first 100 days of their term in parliament. theirterm in parliament. i mean, nobody's ever seen anything like this before, simply because nothing like this has ever happened before. >> and nigel, it's fair to say even labour party insiders i've had. labour party mps on my show repeatedly . john mcternan, repeatedly. john mcternan, a former senior adviser to tony blair, said earlier today that the party has simply lost its grip. alastair campbell, as somebody who few people that watch this channel will no doubt agree with on anything, even he says that the

well, i'm joined in the studio by trevor kavanagh, former political editor of the sun, and lloyd russell—moylemer labour mp. russell—moyle, former labour mp. lloyd, you know, i mean, he has made the point that he could see this problem was coming, that the criminal base has expanded for a variety of reasons, that the last government should have built more prisons. i mean, i don't think anyone's going to say that's not correct, but quite a powerful point he makes there that if you're going to release people out, you need to know at least there's an address to go to. >> yeah. so the last government also helped destroy the probation service. they privatised it then collapsed. it had to be brought back in house. it's a patchwork service now that doesn't really do rehabilitation properly. so there's lots of problems with there's lots of problems with the criminal justice system. but i actually think we need to take a few more steps back across western. the western world. violent crimes have decreased. it doesn't matter what government's been in. it doesn't really matter what policies you pursued fr

and the former political editor, of course, at the sun, trevor kavanagh and gb news senior political editor , nigel nelson. political editor, nigel nelson. gentlemen, welcome to the studio. bartek, let's start with you. we're taught all the time. or at least we hear all the time in the media. we should be ashamed of all of the aforementioned things. we should be ashamed of what britain did in world war ii. actually, we're the nazis now. we should be ashamed of slavery despite the fact we abolished it. and we should be ashamed of our role on the world stage in the empire and the days of the colonial times. and yet when you actually ask ethnic minorities, they disagree with that. >> well , i've never heard >> well, i've never heard anybody say that we are the nazis now, but they should be proud. >> and it's right at parliament square and the pro—palestine protest on chief. i'll tell you, it happens all the time. anyway, i digress. >> well, i think they're right to feel proud. i mean, look at this country. look at the there's just so many things you can look at to see. we have record lo