one of the most famous lines from orwell's "1984" is his winston smith, his hero's, the lover of julia, is only a rebel from the waist down. and feminists have read that against the grain and actually said, this is actually a recognition of the power sexual politics and the idea of the person's political. i do not think that orwell intended it that way. it suggests he was not someone who accorded women the agency he accorded to men. >> i know you teach a class on this. animal farm is a book taught in middle school and "1984" in high school. do you think of misogyny in his writing gets the attention and how it is taught in america today and in recent decades? >> well, at someone, i went to an all girls high school in which i read "1984.". i can tell you that there is, there is a passage in that book of startling sexual violence where winston smith before he begins his relationship with julia imagines raping and murdering her in this fantasy during the ritualized two minute hate that takes place every day. and that was not a passage that we discussed in the reading in high school. i mean

i can tell you there is a passage in that book of startling sexual violence where winston smith, before he begins his relationship with julia imagines and murdering her in this violent fantasy. that was not a passage we discussed reading it in high school. we talked about this idea of what it meant to call julie a rebel from the waist down, but we didn't get to these other moments. he also fantasizes about killing his first wife and pushing her off a cliff to her death but that is nothing we unpacked. it, for me, i went to and all girl high school with a male teacher. even when that is not the situation in play, and packing the extent of the messiah djidji and some of orwell's for and even in "animal farm" --molly the show pony is the villain in this book in that she is narcissistic and willing to sell out the revolution for her own personal gain. it was not something i remember being discussed when i was at school. in terms of my conversations with my students coming into my university level classes, it is not an angle on orwell's writing that is being approached today, either pic >> o

i can tell you that is there is a passage in that book of such startling sexual where winston smith, before he begins his relationship with julia imagines raping and murdering in this kind of violent fantasy during the ritualized two minute hate that takes place every day in oceania. and that was not a passage that we discussed reading it in high school. i we talked about this idea of what it meant to culturally rebel from the waist down. but we didn't get into all these other. you know, he also fantasize as winston smith about killing his first wife and pushing her off a cliff to her death. that's again, not something we really unpacked and i think it's an awkward i mean for i went to an all girls high school with a male teacher. i mean, there was that inherently problematic dynamic. but i think even when that is not the situation at play kind of unpacking this extent of the misogyny in some of orwell's works. and it's very even in animal farm. i mean, molly, the show pony is kind of the villain of the piece in many ways an animal farm in that she's vain, narcissistic and willing to

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