gretchen whitmore has been through a lot. i don't think americans are voting against democrats just because of a woman candidate. i think a lot of ways america needs and wants a woman candidate that is more trustworthy and credible than most of their meal canna mark -- counterparts. i would like to see it in my time and i think gretchen whitmore is a good natural athlete. there are others like schapiro. we will see over the next four years. that is a really good point and i am glad that you made it. >> mark mckennan, thank you so much. >>> turning now to this. this was saturday night live eight years ago. >> [ music ] 's payment i am not giving up and neither should you. >> that is how the cats opened the first show after trump's win in 2016. kate mckinnon as hillary clinton more fully, you could almost hear the emotion in her voice. now saturday night live striking a notably different tone after the second trump victory. >> donald trump will try to forcibly overturn the result of the last election was returned to office. >>

think of now but at the moment, look to the governors, westmore, from maryland, josh appear, gretchen whitmore, i would add governor pritzker in illinois, gavin newsom, but look, the reality is there were mechanical issues that led to this but look to states like new jersey, why did trump do so much better there, it wasn't a swing state. this is a messaging problem. >> because you brought up governors, i want to play what governor elect of north carolina, josh stein, said this morning. >> when you are latino, african american, asian, white, everybody wants good schools. everyone wants an economy where they have a fair shot at making it. everybody wants safe neighborhoods, everybody wants their personal freedoms respected and if you talk about those issues in a way that appeals to all people, and you show that you can deliver on them and you have a track record of getting things done, i believe the voters will reward us. >> john, you and i had a little bit of a debate this morning. i was making the argument that it's not necessarily about kamala harris, not necessarily about joe biden, there is

like gretchen whitmore, we're a cooper in north carolina. they chose not to take a more prominent role this time. so they're, they're a bunch of them and other folks in the senate and down at the mayor's lever level as well. there are democrats, we're doing the service and are recognized for doing the service to the middle class and to work. and people that i think is where we want to be as a party. so it's going to be a question of sorting out, finding those people elevating those people and, and re presenting herself, reintroducing ourselves. i think, to the american people more broadly. john, thank you so much. very good to talk to you about this. thank you for joining us. john nath finger democratic strategist, 5 there from washington. dc. thanks for donald trump's re election is us present, has the potential to reshape the country's economy. the stock market has search following his election victory with the down jones hitting a record high. that's because investors expect to business friendly administration, including tax, scotts, trum