herman goering was the guest of honor.e was there to celebrate his second marriage and sigrid was sitting next to him because she often was the hostess at these events since she was the only woman in the club. and she called him on it. and just said, in a voice loud enough that everyone could hear, this isn't going to work. none of us are stupid enough to run these articles. he lost his temper and said, you know, you're never going to learn respect for authority, that's got to be from being from that crime ridden place like chicago. after that he and his staff called her that dragon from chicago. she wore that title with pride. peter: this is your 10th book? pamela: yes. peter: what else have you written about? pamela: most recently i wrote "women warriors: an unexpected history," a global history of women who actually fought running from the 20th century -- second millennium b.c.e. through the first woman who went to the military academies in 1976 in the united states. looking at women from across the world. i've also wri

herman goering was the guest of honor.e was there to celebrate his second marriage and sigrid was sitting next to him because she often was the hostess at these events since she was the only woman in the club. and she called him on it. and just said, in a voice loud enough that everyone could hear, this isn't going to work. none of us are stupid enough to run these articles. he lost his temper and said, you know, you're never going to learn respect for authority, that's got to be from being from that crime ridden place like chicago. after that he and his staff called her that dragon from chicago. she wore that title with pride. peter: this is your 10th book? pamela: yes. peter: what else have you written about? pamela: most recently i wrote "women warriors: an unexpected history," a global history of women who actually fought running from the 20th century -- second millennium b.c.e. through the first woman who went to the military academies in 1976 in the united states. looking at women from across the world. i've also wri

. >> host: one of the things when she did go back, she had a rope interview with herman goering in 1945rested. do we know, did he remember her? >> absolutely. absolutely. she asked questions that were clearly related to conversations including the conversations about the concentration camps which he continued to claim he knew nothing about but she definitely remembers. >> host: her career ends december of 1945, she has 35 years of life left. what did she do? >> host: she tried to get work. she probably could have gotten a job with one of the tribune's competitors but she was 53 years old which was a lot older than she is now, she had an elderly mother to care for. she was a little concerned if she went to another paper that it would mean that she wouldn't get her pension from the tribune. she didn't take any of those job offers. instead, use her reputation as a specialist in german affairs and central europe in general to get freelance jobs writing for magazines. she certainly did continue to do some speaking programs. she would be called on for radio and television appearances and when

sue and pamela at the same time she was doing some socializing with herman and goering attended press joseph globals. >> yes. she socialized becau sould decimate she wanted to find a high ranking nazi she could build a relationship with. after the election become a political power, they go from having 12 seats to 107 the second largest party since her assistant out to find high ranking nazi who she says has good enough table manners that she can invite him to her home. and through the early years of her career she and her mother basically created and alternate social hub for politicians and journalists in their house. everyone came to their party. which was a very typical german kind of gathering that it meant pretty much stagnant until it came along. they had baked beans were famous throughout the social circles. she wanted to find a high ranking german that she could comfortably invite to parties at her home. and her assistant came back it's obviously better choice than she could have hoped for. she met him a restaurants or twice, and determine though he ate a enormous amounts his t