to my horror, i found the mehdi met -- many metals involved in making my electric car, those hunt for those -- the hunt for those metals is causing massive environmental damage, mayhem, and murder all over the world. this is a really important story that needs to be told. julie: let's talk more about that paradox you just cited. as the world races to decarbonize and electrify, we are creating a new set of problems. some of them quite deadly. vince: yeah. this is the thing. the world is switching faster than a lot of people realize. we are switching over to electric cars. solar power, wind power, electric vehicles. which we absolutely must do to head off the biggest threat that we face right now which is climate change. the paradox h to save the planet, we're actually doing a lot of damage to that planet because while these, you know, renewable tech, renewable energy is great for the climate, doesn't emit much in the way of carbon emissions, but it's very hard on the earth itself. and that's because all the actual machine trees that we are counting on to get us into this new, all elect