spoke with former senior security policy analyst in the office of the us secretary of defense, michael mallory. thursday's caps troops are unable to use the equipment effectively . the west has tired of trying to help him through through all these arms and nothing ever happens. but we're seeing the, the, the western equipment which they are not accustomed to really being destroyed. and we can't, the, the west cannot supply it fast enough. of those tanks, for example, just are rather an effective way. they're, they're being employed uh, in, in the, by, by the ukrainians right now. and the fact now that they were able, that the rest of the forces were able to capture a fully functional abrams to me suggests that the they're gonna, they're gonna see just why it's so difficult and complicated of even for the ukrainians to use. because those tanks are highly sophisticated, very technical and, and this was one of the original reasons why there was hesitation of even sending them in the 1st place. because they knew that that they just couldn't deal with them on the receiving end, as long as the lands

or should we discuss the latest chapter in this ukrainian tried to stay with michael mallory for for my panic on senior security policy on was so good to get you in to him a get back in most go now the last time we were together with about a month ago with the bricks forming cause then at a time when we both agreed with living when decades happen in weeks and then we looked at the past 24 hours made, however, how much food and dropped in the past 24 hours. right now we've got these a ukrainian officials, the and baset over you casing world war 3 is officially underway. michael, i think it's uh, you gotta distinguish between what the latest one and what the people want. and what i'm concerned about is that these people are out of control. the elite us are out of control. and mr. putting has been very steady and staged and his responses, and this was a response dismissal yesterday was a response to the west escalation. i don't care what the white house says, right? i, i saw it with my own eyes when they, us, and the in the u. k. a set their, their, their missiles which they had the pro