they believe that ric grenell was there with donald trump after january 6th when marco rubio was on theenate floor condemning him for what happened on january 6th, appropriately. but they see him as someone who has not been loyal, you know, the way that ric grenell was with him for the past eight years whereas marco rubio ran against donald trump. you know, he actually branded the never- trump movement really and they just don't see how he could pass over ric, who has been fundraising. he is very close to melania trump with the log cabin republicans, and there's still a little bit of a war going on. you can see it even playing out online among the grassroots, the maga right saying that trump should not be passing over ric grenell for rubio, and perhaps that's why there is a bit of a holdup in terms of announcing it publicly because he knows there might be some backlash from the right. >> yeah, they seem to be hoping he could change his mind on that. what are you hearing overall though, because with rubio if he is the secretary of state pick, mike waltz as the national security adviser,

we see marco rubio, bill hagerty, the ric grenell.c grenell's cap, how loyal he has been to donald trump. you looked at others for defense and homeland security, attorney general, do you think that there is any indication here of a shift in the type of president city trump would have ideologically versus what he had in '16? there has been, like, is he putting fewer neo-cons around him than he would have in '16? that's what i'm curious about, some differences in this presidency. >> yeah. well, obviously, this has not happened in anybody's living memory where a man serves as president of the united states, leaves for four years and comes back and serves as president again. it happened once in 1892, never again. we have a better idea of how trump will govern than we did the first time, and i think trump has a better idea with how how he will govern. and i think all of the people you listed,s for example, in secretary of state, if you remember during the first time trump became president or he had a hard time filling the job of secretary

you've got people like ric grenell kash patel, and so ben carson, bob lighthizer. you still have a back bench they haven't used up all their picks. >> i'm looking for byron donalds, fantastic guy. all kinds of people and things that can still happen and yet, you know, he has had four years to recognize whose had his back, whose good on the issues. the america first institute which is where brook rollins led that, pam bondi was on that board so there's a little bit of a shadow government. i think he knew exactly what he wanted and where he wanted people because he wasn't going to repeat the 2016 mistake of believing that everyone had the same idea of coming together and helping the country, so he knows what these people are good at. they maybe have not been in the direct washington but on the perimeter but doing great work, great education, great histories, and it's very exciting. david: picking up on that, mark. the fact is the first term he did rely on a lot of washington insiders and look what he got. he got a attorney pick that led him into the whole russia-gate

ric grenell.r face in ukraine and middle east with a lot of experience to his days in u.n. do think that you that is a position that could have affect for trump administration? >> you know matt whitaker is in nato, he will to a great job, he has never been an ambassaanan ambassador before but he understands problem, ric grenell and matt whitaker have been with trump they know how he deals and work out things, they will work together, ric grenell would be perfect to go to work with president trump, side by side, i'll tell you to get this done, out of the way david, donald j. trump is only one who can put signature on the lean on-line between russia and ukraine to make it work get us out of this devastating loss of lives and money. david: then we have intehen we l agencies, and tulsi gabbard pick to be new dni, director of national intel, she has been attacked as being pro putin, and because of a trip she took to syria in 2015. the independent newspaper considered her to be a moscow friendly maga wa

what about ric grenell for secretary of state?as a special envoy in serbia, and he has vast business investments with, um, with jared kushner, as well, in these foreign countries. >> well, i think ric grenell has demonstrated that he is simply a trump loyalist and will do anything that trump and the maga world want. it is very unfortunate. i was the director of cia when donald trump was elected in 2016. i was going through the halls telling my workforce that their work is critically important and that donald trump and his advisors and team will recognize it and will not abuse the great capabilities that they have. and i believe that donald trump is going to rise to the occasion and grow into the job of the presidency. unfortunately, his first term, that didn't come true. i guess i'm hoping against hope here that he will, in fact, grow into it, but there's real concerns. >> john brennan, former director of cia, thank you very much. >> thanks, andrea. >>> up next, the race to replace mitch mcconnell as senate republican leader heati

secretary of state ric grenell, marco rubio, secretary of defense senator tom cotton.on him in a second. other names being tossed around for other positions, doug burgum, vivek ramaswamy, elon musk and then obviously r.f.k. jr. here is what trump senior adviser jason miller had to say about all of that last night. >> he knows exactly what he wants to do. he knows. the people that he wants to bring with him. and some of these issues can't wait until he gets sworn. in obviously we have what is happening at the southern border there are different things that president trump can do simply by being the president-elect. is. >> axios is reporting even though senator tom cotton's name is being tossed around, he is politely declining any opportunity to have cabinet position. axios is reporting that he prefers to stay in the senate where he plans to run for a leadership position in the senate. the number 3 position, guys. we will send it back to you. >> steve: bill melugin live there in a balcony in west palm beach. it's interesting, depending on what the newspaper is or the new

when ric grenell was taken out, this was the best day in angela's life. he was not your typical ambassador. he was someone who would say, this is no good, let's happening. it was actually love-hate. they really loved him but they said he's a smart one. he was wise to what they are doing. ric grenell. where is ric? thank you, ric. and a woman who ran a very good race. it was a hard race because she believes in things and she believes in them very strongly. i say you always have to stick with your beliefs. it's very tough. i told her, it's very tough. but she is a hell of woman. i knew her father, he was thankful when i put the tariffs on. he passed away but he was a great guy. his daughter is an incredible woman. tudor dixon. we miss your father, right? what a great guy he was. and a woman who drives extremely fast. won races. but she's very successful. it takes tremendous courage and strength in every thing else. i think driving those cars at 220 and 240 miles an hour, you've got to be brave. probably have to be a little bit crazy, danica patrick. you hav

secretary of state along with senator marco rubio and former director of national intelligence ric grenellld going forward, it's going to be advance it's going to be advancing the positions that president trump has articulated that the american people overwhelming supported. >>>>president elect trump is also trying to exert influence over congress and the next senate majority leader in a post directed at the three republican contenders, he wrote whoever wins should allow him to make reese's appointments to his cabinet. that don't require senate approval. he also said the senate shouldn't approve any judges until he takes office. >ryan>and senate republicans will hold a secret ballot on wednesday to replace retiring leader mitch mcconnell. senators john thune of south dakota john cornyn of texas and rick scott of florida, who has the backing of elon musk, are all vying for the job. the winner will lead the republicans new majority in the senate right now, the u.s. and more than 200 other countries are coming together for the united states climate change summit, or cop 29 and arod beijing mo

also being floated is former ambassador to germany ric grenell and florida senator marco rubio. >> they way to make america wealthy and safe and strong again is to make donald j. trump our president again. >> reporter: for the cia john ratcliffe, trump's former director of national intelligence, is widely mentioned. and for defense, former secretary of state mike pompeo is seen as a possibility. one intense focus inside trump's inner circle is who will be nominated for attorney general especially after trump railed against the justice department for prosecuting him. >> it's called the weaponization of the fbi, the doj. they were all coming. >> reporter: names being mentioned by trump insiders include matt whitaker, who was acting ag in trump's first term plus former florida ag pam bondi, who backed trump throughout his impeachments and his legal challenges. >> and if he's out there fighting for us, we are going to fight for him. >> reporter: with trump planning to extend his tax cuts and impose sweeping tariffs, two wall street names among several others are in the mix for treasury sec

on foreign policy you see names like senator bill haggerty, senator mark coal rubio, ric grenell, allple who identify with trump's vision but those who have had issues with trump in the past about how he perceives foreign policy, like, for example, former ambassador nikki haley or former secretary mike pompeo, are now out of the process. it's not because of any personal trouble with trump, i'm told, it's because at the end of the day trump wants to make sure things are moving along smoothly on ideological and policy lines come january. >> do we know what it was with mike pompeo who served him quite loyally for four years as cia director and secretary of state? was it for his support, for example, of ukraine? >> a different orbit around trump right now. he has people like donald trump jr., elon musk, steve bannon on the outside advising him. these are people who are not interventionists, these are people who aren't traditional republican hawks. that's not to say some hawks won't end up in this administration or some wall street figures might end up in this administration as well. i'm t

ric grenell is on their. i want to say something about tom homan.o said trump doesn't know what project 2025 is he just put a key contributor in charge of this. he was interviewed on "60 minutes" and asked is there a way to carry about mass deportation without separating families he said of course there is families can be deported together. he said it didn't mean if someone was going to be rounded up and grandma was in the house and she is undocumented, it didn't necessarily mean she wouldn't be taken too. you can say donald trump has the mandate until you're blue in the face, taking grandma is not what people were voting for. they were voting for criminals to be kicked out of this cou country. >> jesse: abuela is the spanish word. >> greg: really, that is just so offensive not knowing the name. dana, what are your thoughts on whether they move forward? we heard about lee zeldin. >> dana: it's an excellent choice for the epa, he knows -- they have these crazy net zero rules and they are making farmers and ranchers comply with them when the state doe

>> well, ric grenell is not on the list who would stand up to it.agerty i think are reasonable people who have, i think, a good appreciation of the u.s. role globally. the question is whether or not they're going to be able to stand up to a donald trump. lindsey graham has been an very outspoken supporter of ukraine and so i think there is going to be members of congress who -- members of congress that are going to be quite concerned that trump is going to capitulate to vladimir putin, which has really negative implications as far as the u.s. leadership role in the world and what signal it will send to our allies and partners that the united states is retreating from that leadership role. but they cannot count on us. and so i'm hoping that, again, it is going to be somebody that is going to be able to stand up who has the integrity and has the experience and the appreciation for the vital role the united states plays in global affairs. >> ambassador mcfall, when i played that tape back of donald trump talking about the human lives lost, war is a tra

ric grenell is one of them. he is a long track record with the trump administration.e. national security there as well. robert o'brien, kash patel. mike waltz, decorated green beret. these are people who i have no doubt will be bullish against iran, understand our allies. >> harris: if you don't mind i'm going to cede some of my time to ask you about this. for continuity sake how important is it for you to bring back people from the previous administration? normally they are consecutive. very few times in history have we seen nonconsecutive. >> ari: about president trump, let's say i never left office, i won. do i keep my people on or my happy to have everybody resign and make new people applied? you might want to think of it like that. if there were people who served him well who were loyal to him and good at their jobs, ask them to come back. they were there the last day and they are there the first day. or he brings in new. >> harris: robert o'brien. i've heard you talk about how many hostage situations he brought about positively and i think that's probably a guy

all that conversation with the president periods got a lot of great people, ric grenell, marco rubio and a plethora that want to serve in qualified and capable and professional and will do a great job for the president. >> john: the days ahead in all of that will unfold and we will find out what the president's thinking. robert, good to talk to you again for. >> great to be with you, john periods we went back to david spunt is mentioning the iranian journalist will join martha maccallum at the top of the 3:00 hour appeared to the story to address the iranian plot on her life as well as president-elect. >> sandra: what an incredible story she has but meanwhile hollywood all in for a vice president harris put the star power failed to dazzle voters. some of the nation's top universities under fire for indulging students who just can't deal with president-elect donald trump's returning to the white house. can you imagine what jimmy failla has to say? yes what, you will hear and he willn ho join us live next. no upfront termite inspection fee and no upfront water test fee. not $1 out of p

for secretary of state, florida senator marco rubio, tennessee senator bill hagerty and ric grenell, trump's acting director of national intelligence. for defense secretary, mike pompeo, mike waltz, and the chairman of the house armed services me -- committee, mike rogers. chad wolf served as acting khs chief. for tone general, senator mike lee, ken paxton. and lastly, doug burgum as energy sector, and -- secretary. we also heard earlier from president-elect trump on his truth social post about the democrats' money issues when it comes to this election. $1 billion spent from the harris campaign and apparently in debt. the president-elect tweeting or posting in part, quote: whatever we can do to help them during the difficult period, i would strongly recommend we as a party and for the sake of desperately-needed unity do. so we'll have to follow that one with. again, president-elect donald trump will be meeting president biden at the white house on wednesday at 11 a.m. recall we heard president biden say from the rose garden on thursday afternoon he wants to see a peaceful transfer th

. >> yeah, questo sono ric grenell sono la parte di testicles. >> they taste like the balls of all animaln the middle of the spine. the spine? >> yeah questo e sono gia la. >> abbiamo gia arrivano cos'e olaf scholz. >> besides foie gras, we're not that used in the normal food. so this used to be more regional food. and workers food. peasant food. peasant food financiera is so associated with cavour in this restaurant that matteo can't take it off the menu houthis du versioni la mia si e a tradizionale. it's almost a rough ragu. >> allora questa e la mia ricetta o deciso di italia a pezzi molto piu grossi no mettiamo in vapore minuti e poi salviamo con la salsa part. >> that's it. it's like the opposite of what people try to do. no they try to hide. >> you must taste. yeah let's go. >> first up, the traditional financiera this is really delicious and delicate because you think it's not going to be delicate. >> that's also why cavour loved this kind of dishes because it was grown up with french palate. but in the end, he could recognize how delicate it was. >> now matteo's reinvention sasab

of course, ric grenell had been working as the acting director of national intelligence.re is a lot of power in serving in either an acting capacity or serving as somebody who is a deputy, a deputy national security adviser because there's no current national security adviser elevated to that sort of power that the trump administration, again, from the first -- legally there is really no barriers at this point to the capacity and the power to which individuals in those roles when they are in those roles they're able to serve. of course, that is where some of the conversation around the potential use of an acting attorney general has come up for the first several months of his administration. i had sources that i was talking to the last several months who suggested that the acting attorney general, for example, without senate confirmation could move forward with potential indictments or image of grand juries and then indictments in localities. so if they desired. i think that that is where you see a trump administration that wants to be unencumbered by what is they say an

i hope there is a role for ric grenell. he had a strong attitude taking on the bureaucracy, and at the defense department, you need a good manager who will sort out the corrupt mess of our defense procurement. i think elon musk would be brilliant. >> he is busy with other things. who else would you pick up the dod? >> someone who knows how to run things. it's no good putting in -- that places a cesspit of corruption. you've got to have someone who can deal with that and get the modernization of our defense forces. it's a management role. >> maybe somebody like a greg abbott who has had to deal with all those border cases. you cannot put up razor fencing. is how to protect his citizens. while being sued over and over by the federal government. >> it is an executive role. >> just tossing in a name. >> greg abbott, and chad wolf who was a phenomenal dhs headed during my tenure. very good. the democrats are vowing to fight back against president trump's massive deportation efforts. the soon to be border czar, and i'm not talkin

risking world war iii by authorizing these long-range missiles for ukraine, read directly from ric grenell'see as escalation. no one anticipated that joe biden would escalate the war in ukraine during the transition period. this is as if he is launching a whole new war. everything has changed now. all previous calculations are no and void, and all for politics. does beg the question, as we watch this play out, why now? >> well, first of all, let's put the facts on the table. the escalation is being done by russia. north korea had decided, along with china and iran, not only to provide material assistance, or in the case of china economic assistance, as well. they have decided to join in a war. so now we have a country with its military forces joining russia to overthrow ukraine. that indeed is the escalation. and some people are just missing the reality of what is taking place here. the biden administration giving them -- giving ukraine atacms to use is long overdue. it should have been done last year. and used throughout russia, that is the only thing that makes any sense, and it certainly

national security positions, he's looking at kash patel, marco rubio for secretary of state with ric grenell, attorney general, mark paoletta, john ratcliffe. other positions, the chief of staff role critical. susie wiles is a top contender, trump campaign manager, the woman behind the man trying to keep the train on the tracks this whole time. brooke rollins, who has been a long-time trump world adviser and elise stefanik is being considered for ambassador to the united nations. i'm also being told that he's going to prioritize for a lot of these roles folks from outside of government, similar to the way he first came in as an outsider. that's why you've seen him talk so much about robert f. kennedy jr., about elon musk, who may not necessarily have cabinet positions that need approval from the senate, but might come in as health czar or some roles like that. the makeup of the senate and what happens in the house is going to play a role as well, given the congressional involvement in some of these major positions as well, jose. >> dasha burns, thank you so very much. john, just, you know, l

marco rubio and tennessee senator bill hagerty who was donald trump's ambassador to the japan and ric grenellre the leading candidates. of course, grenell former acting director of national intelligence. for defeints if secretary, mike pompeo, mike waltz and now, according to our colleagues at fox digital, the chairman of the house armed services committee, mike rogers. fdhs secretary, chad wolf and tom homan, and for attorney general, senator mike lee, ken paxton. lastly, doug burgum as energy secretary and some think he would make a good secretary of state as well, neil. neil noel thank you, my friend, very much. lucas tomlinson following that as he always does, always on top of everything. by the way, chad wolf will be joining me mow momentarily, get his take on where this whole process of the cabinet selection and beyond is going. mike waltz,es his name comes up too. house intelligence committee, house foreign affairs committee, former green beret. you do not mess with mike. congressman, great to sea you again. see you again. are you interested? your name keeps coming up for a variety of

ric grenell became the first openly gay cabinet member when trump tapped him in 2020.e trump campaign and the president-elect really for quite some time. >> yeah, he has. he has donated $3 million to trump and other republican causes election cycle. has he called trump a very sophisticated person on economic policy. and the other half of that, you know, we talked an awful lot about ter tariff policy and how important that is to the president-elect. he mentioned that an awful number of times. can't count the number of trump speeches where he said i have a new favorite word and it's tariff. he has tried to push that concept not only as we talked about leverage there but as an economic policy. as someone who knows wall street and who knows investing. that's important, too, for a treasury secretary. not just the fed chair that monitors markets. it's the treasury as well. the treasury is so much part of an administration than the federal reserve, which is very much an independent agency there. this really is a hand in glove relationship the president needs to feel comfortab

treasury secretary, hedge fund billionaire john paulson or scott besson, secretary of state ric grenello is a real stalwart trump loyalist. senator marco rubio could be in line for that job, some other names being floated out there for positions in the administration. don't know what yet. doug burgum, vivek ramaswamy, elon musk, who might be the czar in charge of waste fraud and abuse. art rfk jr. >> one particular thing about this campaign as it was a coalition of people you would not initially put, not old neocon era of their republican party so a lot of interesting names to pick but i would also say the trump administration needs to focus on the department of justice, that does seem to be where we have been getting signals the resistance will take place, where the russia collusion hoax was run out of so you need someone to run the department and understand how again to root out some of the corruption and the bad things that have been happening there, so i will be interested to see who he picks there. there have been some names floated from eric schmitt, the senator from missouri who

ric grenell eyed as a top position for secretary of state. other people he's eyeing, missouri senator eric schmitt, potentially for attorney general, and matt whitaker who served at the top of the doj in his first administration, you see some of the other key names there, including mark pompeo he's eyeing for secretary of defense, kash patel, another conservative firebrand. one thing that is notable, if you think about his first administration, he brought in a number of people who were long time career politicians or people who had served in government before. the question is, will he still bring in people who have that type of experience or will there be more outsiders? we're tracking this very closely. >> and kristen, lastly, we're set to hear from the vice president's running mate, tim walz today. what can we expect? >> yeah, that's right. and he's going to speak in minnesota, and i anticipate he will talk about the hard-fought race. he will talk about the importance, i would anticipate, of a smooth and peaceful transition of power. that's

secretary of state ric grenell marco rubio. secretary of defense senator tom cotton.e on him in a second. r.f.k. jr. here is what jason miller said about all of this last night. >> he knows exactly what he wants to do. he knows many of the people that he wants to bring with him. some of these issues can't wait until he gets sworn. in obviously we have what is happening at the southern border there are different things that president trump can do. simply by being the president-elect. >> and axios is reporting that even though senator tom cotton's name is being tossed around, is he politely declining an opportunity to serve in the cabinet. he wants to stay in the senate and run for senate leadership. and with republicans, flipping the senate, taking control of it, guys, is going to make donald trump's job of getting his confirmations done a whole lot easier for those cabinet positions whether it's dhs secretary, ice director, you name it. that road got a whole lot easier with republicans now going to be in control of the senate. back to you. >> steve: bill, you are abso

he's remained close ally to be people like ric grenell, appeared on steve bannon's war room podcast,ned part of this nucleus of individuals who did not run away from donald trump in the immediate aftermath of the january 6th attack and upon his departure from washington. and this calls into question, i had earlier reporting he was under consideration with ken, under consideration to be the fbi director. that would be a confirmable position and it would require donald trump firing chris wray, whose term does not end officially until 2027. you could install him into a doj position or inside of the fbi in a political appointee position that does not require senate confirmation. there is 4,000 political appointee jobs across the federal government, executive branch, just 1,000 of them required to be senate confirmed. so the question is whether donald trump will try to go that route and potentially put him in at the fbi director role or go the safer route and just make sure he's in one of these positions. >> so, dave, let's talk about the possibility of investigating the investigators. th

ric grenell who was trump's former ambassador to germany, has a different idea, and that's the creation of autonomous zones along the front line and in the areas where we have seen fighting, where russian forces have taken territory in ukraine, and there have been even some other ideas, sebastian gorka who will be a deputy in the national security council suggested arming ukraine even more and said that's what the trump administration might do. so there's quite a spectrum of options that have been put forward. one of the sources with whom cnn spoke said it's really up to trump in the end, and he could change his mind at the very last second. but at least we see some ideas from those who could play a crucial role in shaping this in the incoming administration. and it's certainly worth noting that general keith kellogg who is one of those who put forward an idea, was picked by trump to be the special envoy to russia and ukraine. >> yeah, it's a good point oren liebermann, appreciate the reporting tonight. thank you. well, this comes as tonight russia is seeing some momentum on the battlef

rob: ric grenell. if not ric grenell it will be from the senate. maybe rubio.e are all asking ourselves who treasury will be. scott besson i think is at the top of the list but howard like nick has become more popular in the transition teams over the past week or month. i would look at howard lubick as well. annmarie: the names for potential cabinet picks, what is it tell you about how the next four years will play out? rob: the trump 2.0 team will be more ready to govern than the trouble in -- govern than the trump one plano t -- 1.0 te am. it was also a trifecta. i think that we will see a different trump administration with more momentum. more efficient with or without elon musk running the efficiency show. i think what we will see is a technocratic cabinet, but also i cabinet willing to implement trump's policies. lisa: yesterday donald trump came out with the plan to eradicate deep state talking about measures to give him the ability to remove certain people, certain bureaucrats, certain members of the government. how much are those we would expect to hear

we thought ric grenell had the inside track on state. and i guess maybe he'll wind up somewhere else. kamala's campaign spending scandal just got a lot worse. last week we found out kamala spent millions of dollars buying celebrity endorsements and staging concerts that didn't win a single vote and ended up $20 million in debt. tonight, we're finding out. kamala was lying to donors to keep the cash flowing. here's one of kamala's surrogates. this is just an epic disaster. this is a 1 billion. a $1 billion disaster. and i raised millions of that. i have friends that i have to be accountable to and to explain what happened, because i told them it was a margin of error. race. i was promised jen o'malley. dillon promised all of us that harris would win. she even put videos out saying that harris would win. i believed her. my donors believed her, and so they wrote massive checks. i just i feel like a lot of us were misled. democrats were acting like sleazy salesmen, calling up donors and saying, we got trump on the ropes. this race is tight a

of the other potential picks, as we've reported for the special envoy to ukraine and russia with ric grenell, had his own ideas. he suggested setting up autonomous zones along the front line there to try to bring this war to an end meanwhile, another member of the trump team, who will be a member of the national security council also suggested the u.s. might send even more weapons under the incoming trump administration. alex. in short, it'll be up to trump in the end. but these are the ideas that are being presented to him and his team. and crucially, we now know his pick for special envoy to ukraine. and we have a better sense of what his idea is. >> yeah, a lot of speculation, but few specifics. so far. jeff zeleny, i want to go to you. trump of course, has been very critical of u.s. aid for ukraine he has vowed to end this war in 24 hours. he says that he knows how to do it. how much of a priority is ending the war for the trump team? right now? >> it's absolutely a priority. i mean, of course, there is a long list of things that the president elect would like to do on day one. but ukrai

i mean, i need to do a more exhaustive search, but i'm pretty sure ric grenell was was in the cabinet in an acting position. previously when trump was in office. but but it is notable in this republican administration what that would look like sure. >> it's notable. what else is notable are two words that i would like for them to remember. i started my career in the economic agencies in the clinton administration two words smoot and hawley right. two names, i should say. right. so the smoot hawley tariffs of 1930 are very widely regarded as what helped propel us into the great depression. when president hoover put the smoot-hawley tariffs on other countries reacted, prices went up. the global markets constricted. it was a bad scene. i just think they should be very careful before we start getting into tariff wars again in this administration. >> one thing that's interesting about bessent, he's already said that he views and trump views tariffs as a little bit of a sort of a chit to be played in a game of geopolitics. and i do think i actually don't think that besson is a true believer

ric grenell was a very controversial ambassador to germany.al envoy to serbia and during that time was involved -- is involved right now with jared kushner in a big investment in serbia. it's the purchase of $9 billion i think from the serbian government for a new resort, what used to be their pentagon, also in albania. a lot of overseas investments. jared kushner's investment, of course, the $2 billion he got while he was still a white house aide from mbs, the crown prince, the leader in saudi arabia. so we've got a lot of cross currents here. let me ask brendan because there are other possibilities, one would be marco rubio for secretary of state, totally qualified ranking member on intelligence. but would donald trump trust a former member of congress in the cabinet having felt that he's been bitten by former congressional members like jeff sessions whom he couldn't trust because they were too institutional? >> yeah, i doubt he wants to have anybody who is particularly seen as having too many of their own views of the world and thoughts and

ric grenell, where is ric? thank you, ric.with your beliefs. very tough. it's very tough but she's a hell of a woman who had a father i knew in the steel and thankful when we put the tariffs on and he passed away but he would be very proud of his daughter, incredible woman. tutor dixon. we miss your father. what a great guy he was. and then we have a woman who drives extremely fast. she can drive a car and very successful won races, very successful and takes tremendous courage and strength and everything else. driving those cars to 220, 240 miles an hour, you have to be brave. probably have to be a little bit crazy, you have to be a little crazy, right? [cheers and applause] >> such an honor to have you involved, such an honor, we were talking about -- i just can't believe how i was asking her questions and how do you do it? how do you do it because they had me in one of these cars that start the race and i'm sitting in the car and we are going like 60 miles less than what you travel at and are you okay, he was okay. but it's

ask ric grenell, he did a great job for us. you can ask mike pompeo. he is here. to do with us. we have been killing each other for 1000 years. they both did business with the united states and made money. i said, if you keep fighting like this -- lots people are dying and that is all i care about. people are dying because these leaders are stupid. i said, if you keep doing it, i am putting a 50% tariff on everything that you do business with the united states on. talking to the two countries. they called me the next day "we have resolved our differences." it didn't help me but, you know,'s i saved a lot of lives. so, [cheers and applause] so, getting back to the auto plant, because, i may be the greatest weaver of all. what happens, only brilliant people can do that. stupid people cannot do it because they get lost. where am i? the stories are very boring. they have to go right down to the bottom. but i can leave and tell you all of these stories. they are all related. in some case, not too much, 10%. by 10% is enough. getting back to where we started. so i see j

and then confirmed him for dni because he was a whole lot better in their view than ric grenell. have the same kind of thing. he softened them up with the marco rubio pick and as you rightly point out, maybe this won't be so bad. and then boom, boom, boom. what he's done with gaetz and hegseth and gabbard and rfk jr. is take away attention from other nominees who also might be controversial in a normal time, who might be hard to confirm in a normal senate and suddenly they look perfectly fine by comparison. who is being put in charge of the medicare agency? dr. oz from tv. this is a reality show cabinet being put together and certain people are going to be taking the hit up front as matt gaetz is going to be a sacrificial lamb to get some other people through, that's the way it looks right now. >> you covered the white house for some length of time. we had all of these activities going on, all the appointments going on this week. it begs the question, susie wiles is a tremendously respected woman. i think across the board. doesn't matter what party you belong to. there is a lot o

ric grenell does have a lot of experience. he spent over 10 years at the united nations.e was there in the bush administration. he was an ambassador. he would claim to a been with donald trump the longest, to be the most maga, the most loyal. even though he is very close to the former president it is not that he is without foreign policy experience. annmarie: when you think about all the names, all of them have a hawkish stance on china, a little more on europe -- what about isolationism. i do not view marco rubio as an isolationist the way i view some individuals in the far right. morgan: the way i saw the first term play out, i was in the second two years of that as president trump surrounded himself with a lot of individuals who would argue and debate over policy and ultimately he made the decision. i think people often confused what america first foreign policy means with isolationism. i do not think they are the same. trump has always said he does not want to put new american boots on the ground and does not want to see wars like iraq or afghanistan where you end up

the ric grenell and cash patell of the world and real fire brands of the right of mago world who wereed might be put in the foggy bottom post. they may get a big job elsewhere. obviously, the fbi and cia and attorney general, those posts all still empty. we did see stephen miller going back to the white house and deputy chief of staff in a role with huge powers. at least for this, joe and mika, at least a sense that the rubio pick is a signal that there might be at least some grown-ups in the room. >> let's bring in right now to talk about columnist and associate editor for "the washington post," david ignatius. i would say big concern for not only washington but people around the world who love america are and allies of america, they are hoping that there aren't flies put in this position people going on podcast and saying the most outrageous things. obviously some people that have been put in positions that are going to cause concerns. you look at chief of staff, susie wiles. she worked in the reagan administration and she has worked for republicans for years now. mike waltz, green