so you were in charge of hr for unilever. and this is a massive company.is hundreds of thousands of employees. is it different actually being in charge of a company than being in charge of hr? leena: when -- when i was moving to chanel, a mentor told me, you are doing a quadruple jump. i said, what do you mean? so, it has changed on so many dimensions. it's public to private. it's fmcg to luxury. it is from anglo dutch to french heritage. i have weekly french classes. [laughter] it is hr to ceo. so it has been change on all dimensions. it's not just one dimension, it has been all dimensions. and luxury is very different from fmcg. as you know, the preciousness, the rarity is not available everywhere, every time. it's the balance between timeless, quest for new. it's all of that. it's different. it's -- to me, the principles of business and the principles of leadership are transferable across sectors. how to run a business across multiple countries, multiple product categories, multiple geographies, multiple cultures. how to galvanize and inspire teams acro

just recently we the case of unilever, a big consumer company, finally deciding get out and finding a russian buyer who actually has bought up some other assets of russian of western companies, including heineken. i more will probably exit in the coming year because i think it's untenable to stay and i you know, it's it's not that they run the risk of having their assets seized eventually. i think that's that that's a real risk that they're running by staying. but unfortunately, a lot of the attention on this has shifted away as people, you know, stopped focusing so much on what was happening in ukraine. so i think some of this has been lost with, you know, corporate pr departments saying, oh, we're leaving russia, but they didn't actually leave. so it's actually quite hard to determine who's there and what are they doing. yeah, i think the very important point so clearly the issue of sanctions remains controversial in the west. when people look at the impact of the sanctions, you point out in your book that, few people thought that by imposing these far reaching sanctions on russia t

many have gotten out, just recently we have the case of unilever, a consumer company finally deciding to get out, finding a russian buyer who actually has bought up some other assets of russian-- of western companies, including heineken. i expect more will probably exit in the coming year because i think it's untenable to stay and you know, it's not-- that they run the risk of having their assets seized eventually. i think that's-- that that is a real risk they're running by staying, but unfortunately, a lot of the attention on this has shifted away as people, you know, stopped focusing so much on what was happening in ukraine. so, i think some of this has been lost with, you know, corporate pr departments saying we're leaving russia, but they actually didn't leave. it's hard to determine who is still there and what are they doing. >> i think a very important point. >> so the issue of sanctions remains controversial in the west when people look at the impact of the sanctions. you point out in your book that few people thought that by imposing these far-reaching sanctions on russia tha

like unilever he was talking about the opportunity there got hit post-election because it's listed ins now is the time for those kind of companies to shine as the rally sort of broadens out and the outlook improves overall. >> do we guess he's upset about policy that might affect a wendy's out of hhs? >> we didn't get into specifics on that. i think overall, he's pretty encouraged. he's a friend of donald trump's. >> he said he put musk and trump together, right? >> yeah. he was the matchmaker in that one at a breakfast, brought them back together. and feels good about some of the policies, he was focused on some of the broad stuff. he was focused on the balance sheet and the deficit. he's excited to see what musk will do if he's given the opportunity. he was talking about deportation and big picture issues. you're right. tomorrow i'm doing this deep dive into rfk and what some proposals on big food would look like and how food companies might respond. >> that will be widely watched. >>> when we return, shares of cv on the move after agreeing to add four new board members including la

that was agreed at the time unilever required ben & jerry's.at merger agreement. >> is it tough when politics gets into selling products? >> you know, in the case of ben & jerry's, look, that rand, we acquired it at a sales level of 120 million dollars or something like that and we have grown into a brand that has been growing successfully. part of the success of ben & jerry's is a social mission. the way they speak out and speak up and as long as that fits you know, the brand, peace, love, and i scream, i'm all for that. it is a wonderful thing to do. you need to be careful that is a company you don't take political sides when that is not necessary . so, sometimes that brings a certain tension, but i believe it is a healthy tension. they keep us on our toes and it is a great brand. i'm sure it will be successful going forward. lizzy: that was the unit -- unilever ceo. you will have plenty more to come. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ ♪ with so much great entertainment out there... wouldn't it be easier if you could find what you want, all in one place?

conversation with nelson peltz too, he invested in more old school consumer companies, we talked about unileverto other companies that have been shells of themselves and haven't used technology in an effective way when he looks at brands, he looks at dove soap which everybody always wants how they're using this gen a.i. to power marketing and produce efficiencies and productivity. it is an analysis tool for all investors, even in stocks that don't have anything to do with chips. >> yet >> yet exactly. andrew and david showed off their avatars. that's just what's possible today. nvidia, we're going to get earnings next week three interesting calls on the stock today. optum to 175 they argue the revenue upside may not be as potent this quarter as it has been in prior quarters the average revenue beat is $2 billion. >> a good run. high bar when it comes to earnings expectations. we do have a number of earnings that we didn't hit today, and some of the highlights about what they say about where we are with the consumer, we mentioned disney is a winner on earnings i wanted to highlight this point fr

unilever is working to fine-tune its business strategy amid geopolitical turmoil.he ceo tells francine lacqua about the committee's decision to pull out of russia and how it plans to navigate possible u.s. tariffs. take a listen. >> it was a very difficult decision to make. i found out in my last one and a half year, it was the most difficult decision to make. but i did make it quite soon in the sense that i wanted optionality for us to exit that market, which was a tedious process. it took more than 12 to 14 months to come to that point we worry -- where we were able to exit. at some point in september, i felt i had the optionality on the table. again, it was difficult, but i made the decision to go, not because of the war going on right now but because i felt that the control on our business was coming down. i feel that, ultimately, if you are a global company, unique control of your operations we need to be able to review results and get the cash out of the country ultimately, and we need to make sure we live up to potentially international sanctions we need to