yes, no one would have designed this except people like andrew whitty and other executives who profitney on this healthcare system and they spend massive, massive amounts of money every single year in campaign contributions and lobbying, in their propaganda campaigns to protect this very profitable status quo and the murder took place just hours -- well, just as this company was starting its investor day in new york. that is a day that is the most important day for these companies because that's a day that executives like andrew whitty and brian thompson who sadly was murdered that day, that's the day that they get to tell shareholders and wall street financial analysts how they plan to make even more money in the coming months. so it's true. they did not design this system, but they spend enormous amounts of money to keep it in place and they know very, very well why people are frustrated, because they perpetrate violence on all of us every single day. an untold number of people die in this country because of the practices of these companies. >> let me pick up on the point you mentio