and that's the councillor thomas mallon, reform uk for kent county council.nk you very much for your time. let's continue this conversation. now. back in the studio, conver

well, joining me now is the reform councillor for kent county council, thomas mallon.mas, welcome to the show. thomas, pleasure to have your company. the reason i wanted to speak to you tonight is because your party leader, nigel farage, has been saying that the devolution model is actually a cover story. devolve power means , actually, devolve power means, actually, there'll be a good chance that a good number of local elections might be cancelled in may. in fact, jim mcmahon, the government minister, said that there's a good chance that that could happen. and that, of course, would mean that those are elections, that the reform party is expected to do well at. do you think this is a manipulation of democracy , using manipulation of democracy, using devolution as a cover story for avoiding a good hounding, a good kicking? at the polling for sir keir starmer? >> absolutely. and what we've got right at this moment in time is orwellian double talk. and that's what's coming out of the labour party right now. i was elected democratically by the local people of, of greenhit