kezia, there is no alternative anymore. >> you know, we've tried. has also tried with the sort of much more in the middle. well, parties that say they're centre right. they're not doing anything about immigration. so this is a reaction. this is just simply a reaction to i mean, this is not the first time this has happened in germany. >> no, there have been some horrific attacks and similar attacks like this in 2016. i believe there was one in which 13 people died. and i mean, i'm just amazed that people are still willing to sacrifice children and women and children and innocent people on the altar of multiculturalism to say, you know, one day this is all going to work out. one day the attacks are going to stop. >> i think multiculturalism was working to a certain point until we started letting in a lot of men from a particular area of the world. we have to be honest about that. you know, multiculturalism has always had its ups and downs, but this is serious now. this is children being killed on our streets. and this man, a lot of people are saying,