austin hi there, i'm lindsey crittendon. i'm a i am writer of both narrative nonfiction, mostly memoir fiction. my book of short stories is called the view from below, and was published by a very small about 25 years ago. and my memoir, water will hold you was, published by a bigger company about. 18 years ago, and i teach the writer's grotto. i'm a member of the writer's grotto. i write personal essays and and short stories. i'm i'm excited to be here with my friend rachel and with tom to talk about. i think a really meaty and interesting topic. so thank you all for coming? hi, i'm rachel howard and. it's funny how it brings us back together. was just telling tom that lindsay and i were in writer's gosh 20 years ago while i was writing my memoir and while lindsay was writing her memoir. and we were actually the earliest some of the earliest readers for each other. and i just ended up rereading her memoir the water will hold you about three months ago. and because years had passed, it was all new me again, and it was so beau