margaret? >> margaret: stay warm, rob. thank you.will go overseas to syria where today the top u.s. official interprets of freeing americans held overseas visited damascus for the first time since the fall of the assad regime. roger carstens is leading the search for answers about austin tice, a marine veteran and american journalist who vanished in syria more than 12 years ago. we spoke with carstens in an exclusive interview for this sunday's "face the nation." you told reporters that you were amazed at the number of secret prisons that bashar al-assad had, more than 40 of them. have those prisons been searched yet, and do you know if journalist austin tice was held in them? >> so, it is not going to shock me to find out that there are prisons that have yet to be discovered and searched. i would say if i am stunned by anything, it's just the amount of prisons. i mean, you'd almost think that if you were running a country and you wanted to jail your enemies, you'd have one prison, and it wouldn't be secret. but to have like 35 or 40

margaret? >> margaret: tom, thank you.l, the man suspected of murdering the unitedhealthcare ceo in manhattan could be leaving a pennsylvania prison sooner than expected, as we learn new details on the timeline of the manhunt. cbs's lilia luciano reports. >> reporter: luigi mangione could be days away from coming to new york to face a murder charge. >> the defendant may waive, but that waiver is not complete until a court proceeding. >> reporter: mangione's defense declined to respond to cbs news today, citing attorney-client privilege, but a growing pile of evidence is already made its way to manhattan grand jury, which nypd investigators say places mangione at the scene where unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson was murdered. >> we were able to match that gun to the three shell casings that we found in midtown at the scene of the homicide. we were also able, at our crime lab, to match the person of interest's fingerprints. >> reporter: it took police six days to find mangione, but on day 2 of the manhunt, "the san francis

>> margaret, remember -- >> that ended a crisis. >> margaret, remember where we were when the presidentin the midst of the covid-19 pandemic. the prior administration had imposed title 42, which is a public health authority, and enabled us to expel individuals, to continue to expel individuals at the border as the prior administration had done. there was tremendous pressure to maintain the workings of title 42, which we did. that held until may of 2023. we then turned to congress, and we asked for supplemental funding that was desperately needed to make our administration of a broken immigration system work much better. >> mm-hmm. >> we were denied. we went back to congress a second time and requested supplemental funding. denied. we then turned to the bipartisan negotiations, which proved successful, which were then killed. the result of it a really terrific solution was killed by irresponsible politics. looking back now, in hindsight, 2020, if we had known that irresponsible politics would have killed what was clearly a meritorious effort, a meritorious result, perhaps we would have t

(bright music) - peggy noonan, welcome to "firing line." - thank you, margaret. it's great to be here. - i've known you for many years, and it is a great pleasure to welcome you to this program. your new book, "a certain idea of america," is a compilation of 80 columns that you have written between 2016 and now. as we sit here in the wake of a divisive election in which a twice-impeached convicted felon, a man for whom you never voted, and even called for his removal from office after january 6th, has been democratically reelected, in this moment, what is your idea? - what is my certain idea of america? - what is your certain idea of america? - the phrase "a certain idea of america" comes from the famous first sentence of charles de gaulle's war memoirs, "all of my life i've had a certain idea of france." and i remember that when i read it, read that translation, i thought, "oh my gosh, that is true of me." all of my life i feel i've had a certain idea of america; that it is new, that it is good, that it is great, that it is a startling and original thing in hist

so, the sas was very impressed with margaret thatcher. so, is it true about when margaret thatcher went to the killing room with the secretary? you want to tell them that story? >> you tell the story because i didn't put it in the book. the one where she -- where she tells douglas herd not to be so scared? >> yeah. well, margaret thatcher went to the sas and she went to the killing room where they actually practice with live ammunition. and had the secretary with her. the sas burst in and open fire and the secretary basically jumped under the chairs and was -- and apparently the sas said that margaret thatcher didn't bat an eyelid. she just sat there -- what did she say to him? basically -- >> i sort of half believe that story. >> exactly. >> that sounds like the sort of story margaret thatcher would have told and the sas would have told about margaret thatcher. one i know to be true -- the killing house is a kind of nondescript, one-story building in the center of sas headquarters that, as you rightly say, used for practice hostage situa

and margaret, we gave each other so many hugs backstage. all spectrum of good and bad emotions, but i will make them work now. - the united states was slow to designate you, to give you the designation that you deserved, as wrongfully detained. you received that designation finally when you were on the plane coming home. that designation helps even still. - oh yeah, it helped. - however, what do we need to do in the united states to support journalists who are imprisoned and to support media freedom abroad? - to keep our stories in the spotlight, to build solidarity and cooperation between journalists. you know, we journalists, journalism and media community, we are competitive and we have to be. but when it comes to safety, we have to unite and show solidarity. this was my case. this was evan gershkovich's case, and i believe this will be the case when it comes to other journalists. it doesn'tatter what media outlet they are from, which country they're from, we have to be united. - final thoughts from each of you, and maria, i'd like to te

margaret thatcher and her husband turn up. they began wandering among the troopers and shaking hands. somebody noticed margaret had tears running down her face. everyone thought it was -- it was the tear gas. she wasn't moved by who was going on. she was too tough for that. there's a moment in the scene i think when the story comes on the television and it's -- the footage is playing. all the troopers, the soldiers are watching themselves on television for the first time. a figure moves in front of the screen. they all shout, sit back down. sit down whoever it is. it's margaret thatcher. she ducks out of the way. it's one of my favorite bits. she was not used to being talked to like that. >> you save it for the end of the chapter, where it belongs. most of the chapters end where they want to. the risk with a book like this is everybody is fascinated by the story and they don't notice how brilliantly it's told. what else? >> that's it. >> we're there. i hope everybody has some questions. >> i do. before i get to all of you, i g

margaret thatcher. has. this book been translated or will it be translated, i suppose, in a i don't know if that's first or persian where it can be. it will be. there is already an arabic translator underway, which it will be fascinating to see how it's received in that part of the world. i mean, the protest by arabs in iran continue today. i mean, it is brutally brutally put down, but it's still going on. it's still very much part of it is one of the many opposition groups that exist towards, the fundamentalist theocratic. now, andrea, maybe you want to book writer's block event in tehran. think that would probably be yeah let's do it. paris okay. the fair enough. who's this gentleman? this is one of my favorite characters in the whole book. this a man called pixie trevor locke, who is the british policeman guarding the front door of the embassy. when the iranian gunmen attacked guardian is a slight guarding is a slightly energetic word for what trevor was doing. trevor was standing around having a cup

good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. tough day for army but great for america. >> indeed. well, as a green beret, i know you had a reason to be cheering there for army, sir. i want to ask you a number of topics, but before i go overseas, you sit on the house intelligence committee. you also, because of your new role, are in contact with president biden's national security adviser jake sullivan. do you think the public should be concerned about these reported drones all over the east coast? and have you the need for more authority to deal with them? >> well, i think what the drone issue points out are kind of gaps in our agencies, gaps in our authorities between the department of homeland security, local law enforcement, the defense department. i think americans are finding it hard to believe we can't figure out where these are coming from. i can tell you from the defense department standpoint, they're focused on bombers and cruise missiles and it's pointing to gaps in our capabilities and our ability to clamp down on wha

margaret stays. rfk jr. could face one of the bumpiest nomination hearings yet, and we're going to dig into why coming cup. he's been on this very program, as you see there. by the end of the hour, andrew weissmann is here with giggs. first the other big news rocking washington, sweeping action by president biden to basically stop most pending death row executions. we'll explain in 90 seconds. executions we'll exaipln in 90 seconds. jordan's sore nose let out a fiery sneeze, so dad grabbed puffs plus lotion to soothe her with ease. puffs plus lotion is gentle on sensitive skin and locks in moisture to provide soothing relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. i won't let my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me... emerge as you, with clearer skin. with tremfya®, most people saw 100% clear skin... ...that stayed clear, even at 5 years. serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections may occur. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infec

margaret: i doubt it.is one thing i really would welcome, to tell you the truth, it would be a conversation about what function the president's power serves in the current federal justice system. that has not been a conversation we have had. and there have been many people who have been applying for pardon through the normal process who have not had their cases decided, and there are hundreds of cases that are pending of ordinary people who applied for pardon or commutation of sentence. whether they ought to be continuing to wait is another good question, and whether we want to hold this remedy out for them anymore. lewis: fascinating. thank you very much for coming in the program. margaret: you're very welcome, thank you. lewis: want to take you live to georgia. you may have been following night after night of this, the fifth night, protesters in georgia out on the streets confronting police, as you can see there. just after midnight in the capital, to police the -- tb lisi. we have had four nights of cla

it is also due to his relationship with margaret thatcher at the time.ut the queen puts the icing on the cake. she makes sure that when reagan is coming to europe, actually for some events like g7 and nato, that there is a british leg of the trip, because he is keen to do the horse rides. and this is kind of a reward in some way, but kind of a thank you for the help in the falklands. and this begins -- cements, really, the queen's respect for reagan as a guy, as a president, as a leader. it means so much to her as her country's figurehead, but also as a mother caring about her own son. peter: there is a third leg in this stool, which is the official british government, the prime minister, whoever it happens to be at the time. are the palace and the prime minister coordinating? mr. charter: oh yes. yes. behind the scenes, the biggest speeches will be drafted through downing street, where the prime minister -- it's the prime minister's residence. the queen gets to host two state visits a year. the late queen got to host two state visits a year. these are d

s advice, took to the dance floor with margaret.eter: did that include anglo-american relations at the time? mr. charter: that is a good question. i think it is said that lbj never bore a real grudge against britain that would be damaging to the special relationship. his problem was with the labour prime minister who was refusing to commit british troops, because that was causing tremendous problems with his own party back home. when you get a royal visitation like that, history shows us, and throughout the book as well, that the atmosphere dinner -- generally improves. the publicity around it is so normally positive that relationships are kept at a special level. it is not every country that can arrange to have a member of his leading family attend a dinner at the white house, and a dinner that i all accounts the lady was really excited to be able to host. for a change, in the lbj white house. peter: you also write that the johnson.ter met lady bird mr. charter: that's right. on a subsequ visit to texas, she was able to meet her. b

margaret was the six. she also had at least seven miscarriages. so she was pregnant or nursing or miscarrying for the majority of her roughly 30 years of marriage. sanger's mother also suffered from tb, which was exacerbated by this relentless series of pregnancies. and she died when she was 50. sanger did not have the opportunity to get a college education. she went to nursing school and married, had three children and ended up working as a visiting nurse in the tenement neighborhoods of the lower east side. she was also at that point very much part of the socialist and anarchist, even in downtown manhattan. but through her work as a visiting nurse, she saw many women who are like her mother. but similarly had been through a relentless series of pregnancies with the difference that sanger's mother was very catholic. but sanger would meet women who had tried to induce abortions and would suffer infections or injuries. and she sat by the bedside of more than one woman who died after trying to terminate a pregnancy. so it was through those experienc

so more daunting even than margaret thatcher was playing emily maitlis. absolutely fabulous. and she in fact has her own drama coming up that she has produced about that same interview. do you think there's room for two dramas so close together about the same interview with prince andrew? i don't know. it's interesting, because the one that we did was sam mcalister�*s take. who was the producer. who was the producer, on what happened. and i'm very interested to see it. hopefully there is room. there is obviously room for both versions. often in britain we claim you as ours. but you're not, because you're actually american, of course. because you have lived here for a long time, and you seem to be able to switch accents. where do you see yourself? where do you see as home? i definitely see the uk as home. i think i have alighted on something that makes sense to me, which is that... because if i'm asked if i want to give up my american passport, that doesn't feel right. and so it feels like perhaps my cells are american but that my soul is british. that see

there was a makeup visit that lbj already knew margaret from previous engagements. independence celebrations in jamaica, for example. and so, when margaret announced her first big royal tour of america, the british establishment did not want it to be all glamorous parties and hollywood, which margaret probably wanted it to be, because she knew lbj a little. it was fixed up that she would have a dinner at the white house , and so while the queen did not meet lbj, it was a rather glamorous and famous occasion. lbj wasn't one for parties. it was, perhaps, the biggest white house party dinner of the entire administration where she sat next to the president and everyone had a fine time and lbj, who was recovering from another illness, and operation at the time, perhaps against doctor's advice, to the dance floor with margaret. >> did that improve anglo- american relationships at the time? >> it's a good question. it is said that lbj never bore a real grudge against britain that would be damaging to the special relationship. it was said that his problem was with harold wi

one more time for margaret? go ahead, margaret. you are on. ok, let's go to matt. dearborn, michigan. you're on. caller: i would like to ask about trump's plan over crypto. he wants to make it like a reserve currency and spend billions or trillions, can't remember the number. i don't think it's a good idea, but i would like to hear what he thinks about it. guest: like so many things, donald trump wants to control inflation but put on tariffs. grow the economy but take the immigrants out of the labor force. the same thing goes with cryptocurrency. the u.s. dollar is the reserve currency around the world. that gives us great benefit. what do i mean? central banks hold dollars around the world to back up their currency. they hold some gold. they hold it in the form of treasury securities. it is also the transaction currency. for example, you are in thailand and you are going to send toys that you manufactured to chi lay. there is not much of a market for pesos. but they do is the chileans by the dollars and trade the dollars to purchase bahts, they pay for it that way

geoff: margaret love, thank you for your time this evening. margaret: you're most welcome. day's other headlines -- vanessa: i'm in for stephanie sy with news hour west. there are the latest headlines. the winter storm that blasted northern states all weekend still won't let up. nearly seven million people are under winter weather alerts today, as lake-effect snow coming off of the great lakes continues to pound parts of the upper midwest and northeast. western michigan could see another foot of snow today, while other parts of the state, as well as new york and pennsylvania, are digging out from close to four feet of snow from this weekend. man: this weather is buffalo weather. it's amazing weather. it's great weather. geoff: that didn't stop tailgaters ahead of the buffalo bills' sunday night game. the team paid fans $20 an hour to help dig out the stadium before kickoff. the snow wasn't enough to deter most air travelers either. the tsa says more than three million people took post-thanksgiving flights yesterday, and that set a new record. turning now to the middle east,

>> margaret: well, the u.s.trying to suss out if rebel leader mohammad al-jolani and his fighters pose a threat still to u.s. national security. under u.s. law he is a decimated terrorist because of his past ties to al qaeda. one of the ways the u.s. is trying to feel him out is through passing messages via our ally, turkey. their intelligence chief was in damascus today. secretary of state antony blinken is in turkey today. so this is wait-and-see because he is publicly signaling he wants to chart a path, and in the meantime, the biden administration is still carrying out strikes against isis, a different terror group in syria. >> norah: want to get your take on this story. cbs news the first to report that china's president xi will not accept an invitation by donald trump to attend his inauguration, but why would the president-elect invite the communist leader in the first place? >> margaret: well, trump's spokesperson says this is about an open dialogue, but this is america's chief adversary, and norah, there

-thank you, margaret. great to be here. -you spent two years shadowing elon musk. in 680 pages, you set out to answer the question, "could he have been more chill and still be the one launching us towards mars and an electric vehicle future?" what's your answer to that question now? -you know, you got to take elon musk the whole cloth. the absolute intense person is what's getting his rockets launched. it also makes him a very difficult character. but if you had a chill elon musk, a restrained elon musk, we'd all probably like being around him a bit more sometimes, but i don't think he'd be the one shooting the rockets to mars or getting us into the electric vehicle future. -you agreed to become elon's biographer at a high moment for him, before he went on to purchase twitter and become a more controversial figure. -yeah. -he had vast success with spacex. he had also achieved vast success in the production of teslas. -yeah. -as you reflect on the other disruptors in human history that you have chronicled,

it's an interislamist whatever. >> but, mouaz, i think margaret's talking as a person. he was in al qaeda and iraq. he worked for czar wa qawi. he was a detainee in bukka prison. we're talking hts and him as a person. >> him as a person but what's hilarious about this, right now as millions of syrians come back from europe, ready to come back home, people have not been displaced and zero reports of violations and i was on the phone with the bishop of aleppo. the reason i was on the phone, president trump and people in president trump's camp were concerned about the christians in had syria. of course there's so much focus any time there's something, te terr terrorist, terrorist. the bishop of aleppo said, first, sir, it's the coalition of groups. we've had electricity now more than in our regime. they're in fear of airstrikes. he told russia to get out of syria, and it has done so. whether that continues to be the case and what transpires. mouaz, i have to go. >> h.o.r., the affiliate. h.t.s. has defeated it and isis. the old designation is kind of irrelevant. >> we will

. >> margaret: breaking news. deadly attack on a busy christmas market in germany. a car drives into a crowd of people. why officials say it appears deliberate. the new information. >> we will not have a government shutdown. >> margaret: shutdown averted? the 11th-hour house vote to keep the government open. >> i usually travel on fridays and this is the worst it's been for me. >> margaret: with about a

until next week, for "face the nation," i'm margaret brennan. not come to know the lord until i was 43 years old, so i had an entire childhood and adulthood apart from the lord, knowing of god, but not knowing christ, not having a relationship with jesus. there's a lesson that i learned from dr. charles stanley. we think something's too small to bother asking god about, but every little detail of your life you should be checking with him on. so, don't only pray in the dark times, but pray when things are going good. pray to think him, pray to worship him. ♪ >>> hello and thanks for staying up with us. i'm matt pieper in new york, and here are the top stories on "cbs news roundup." ousted syrian leader basha

. >> good morning, margaret. merry christmas. >> merry christmas as well to you. this was quite the journey to get you back home and to get lawmakers to wrap up business this past week. no democrat voted against this measure to keep the government open, but 34 republicans did. doesn't this show that republicans really struggle to govern when they pass things along party lines? won't they need to work with democrats in this new congress? >> well, i think it is very, very important that speaker johnson and incoming majority leader thune have a steady plan together to work with the incoming trump administration to prioritize the president's priorities, our priorities in the house and senate, and make sure we're on the same page because with narrow majorities we have got to work together and that's critical and i think this last week demonstrated that. >> well, you will have a fractured conference, a slim majority. mark short, who was the director of legislative affairs in the first trump administration said this chaos shows just how hard it will be to tackle border a

joining me now is margaret spring. she's the chief conservation and science officer at the monterey bay aquarium. she's also a researcher that affects the plastic pollution. and she just returned from south korea from that meeting. thank you for being here, margaret. so certainly i don't want microplastics in my brain or in my blood. so let's start with the overall question. how bad is our plastic pollution? and what's our role, the u.s, in creating it? well, thanks for having me. it's an i'm so happy that you're covering this issue, because it's not as well known that there are solutions ahead. however, the problem is dire. in the last 20 years, we've produced half the plastic that we that's ever been produced. so it's increasing. we're going to be increasing another three fold by 2060. and microplastics come from microplastics, which are the bigger pieces as well as some intentionally created microplastics. and the world health organization clarified their position that there's growing scientific evidence that these

margaret taylor for us this morning. margaret. thank you. i appreciate it. all right.on cnn this morning, a rebel uprising in syria where russia and iran, two distracted by their own conflicts to see the attacks coming. plus blowout and a blizzard. the 49ers just couldn't handle the cold against the bills bleacher report. up next five good things. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts bye bye. >> cough chest congestion. hello, 12 hours of relief. >> 12 hours. not coughing. >> hashtag still not coughing. >> mucinex dm gives you 12 hours of relief from chest congestion in any type of cough, day or night. mucinex dm its comeback season hi susan honey. >> yeah, i respect that, but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin, honey. >> the real honey you love plus the powerful cough relief you need. >> mind if i root through your trash? >> robitussin with real honey and elderberry. >> no peeking. okay okay open up over. >> 600,000 usps employees working in sync to ensure everything sent on its holiday ride ends with a moment of joy the united states postal service.

that is margaret kinssy and masters and johnson. the pornification of american culture. the complete transgressive attack on traditional or christian moral and ethics understanding. by the way, broadly defined. you know, america, after the work of kinsey and masters and johnson, categorically was never the same again. and their direct impact of their researched study, but above all, advocacy, unethically, by the way, in my personal view, had a direct influence on, immediately, on what would come after them in american culture. for instance, and i'm using just one example, but alfred kinsey inspired hugh hefner to create playboy magazine. he encouraged helen gurrly brown into a sex manual for women. he took the pornography industry and made it mainstream resulting in millions of broken lives and marriages and carl truman, a friend and scholar, i think summarizes it very, very importantly when he says in short, the tradition of seeing the world as driven by sex that kenzie's report inaugurate is responsible for the fact we now see the world as driven by sex. by the way, we

then we also have margaret george lee, who is the author of, starting field, a memoir of lost history. margaret, into a deeply held story about her grandfather, one in which he was seen as a criminal as a communist. and through marga its journey and her exploration, she unearths the truth about her grandfather and that he was far from a criminal far from this sort of stigmatized individual in the family. he was a hero. he was a resister to the japanese occupation. so we were all telling family stories about our own wholeness. and we've all encountered obstacles to these to the telling of our own, to ourselves and to an audience. so i wanted to start then with susan. could you tell us a little bit more about your about your book and then also what some of the obstacles for you? okay is this on you? citizen okay, great. thank you. thank you so much, lesley. i'm so honored to be this panel. and as this is a this is a topic that's near and dear to my heart, the idea of secrets, it's kind of at the center of of my book as an adopted my life was pretty much shrouded in secrets from the day

create an event in margaret to clean. at the time they were the odd women out. later agreed to and her sister in law always determine the state of the company. for decades. the angels appeared in 1923 achieving international renown and 1937 at the world's fair in paris, in winning a gold medal. the angels design has barely changed in their 100 years. and they've always stay true to their or mountain origins. as didn't have to do that, they were inventors who were trying to create something new, the impulse noise to it said that when there weren't invitations and i was my great and would say, okay, let's come up with something do my best to the most of the phase and some of us. so innovation came from those new ideas and cuz i got divorced and this approach as well as stablished here. hey mike, this closest to home is deeply rooted, and of course that's reflected to an extent in our work. the family business also place has great value on documenting the history of the company for posterity. great events, way of cutting the woods, so the pieces could be glued toge

in the, in the it's a valley in the swiss alps and it's my very 1st time my destination to saint margaret's. a place that stands for winter tourism like no other saint mar, it's used to be a simple farming village. but today you see massive hotels and shop windows with luxury items. tour guide is usually the place to go explained to me that winter tourism was the result of a bed between the hotel owner, $200.00 spotwood and a group of 4 summer travelers from england. and then they made a bed in the fields. he said, come to save more rich in the winter, and if you don't like it, i'll pay for your trip from london to saint moritz and back. and if you like it, you can stay at my hotel for free as long as you'd like died. needless to say, he won the bed and as a result, st mertz became a popular trip destination in winter time to the international competitions. take place in this with mountain town regularly. even the st. maurice lake is used in winter for a rather unusual events. a total tournament. dip out in december, we need about a week of minus 30 degree temperatures every night. ideally

>> look, margaret, we don't know. look, the whole tax discussion is going to happen over the course of 2025. >> why didn't you do it in 2017? >> in 2017 we didn't have the financial wherewithal to do it. when you go through reconciliation, which is how they will do taxes this time, in 2025, you are given instructions by the budget committee. the instlukss are basically how much money you can spend or how much revenue you can take in. this time it will be how much money you can spend. we did not have additional money to spend so the lowest we could get the corporate tax rate at that time was the 21%. that's also the reason that the corporate tax part of the tax legislation 2017 expires the end of 2025. to score that piece of legislation, which in the financial requirements we were given by the senate and the house finance committees, we had to end the persona side at the end of 2025. so we do know that taxes will be taken up by this congress in this session. we know that they're going to have to deal with the personal

yes absolutely. >> and, margaret, it must mean something to you as well.hat that people are continuing to think about western north carolina and what you all have gone through to have your christmas tree there is a reminder that the recovery process is still going on yeah, it definitely is. >> there's small towns, you know they are hardy people in their community driven, and it's nice to know that the country is still thinking about them and sending them resources, and they'll use them. resourcefully yeah, absolutely. >> all right. well, we're all pulling for you to continue recovering there in western north carolina. and the tree is just simply beautiful. you picked a good one for the white house thanks so much, sam and margaret carter. thank you very much. we appreciate it happy holidays. >> thank you. >> happy holidays. >> all right. merry christmas all right. we'll be right back cnn heroes, an all star tribute. >> meet and celebrate the honorees. then find out who will be hero of the year. plus a special tribute to michael j. fox cnn heroes, an all sta

joining me now to talk about this is margaret talev, senior contributor at axios. margaret. good morning. margaret. >> good morning. >> how are you? >> good, good, good to have you. so let's start with just the fact that there was a lot of back and forth about whether this report would ever see the light of day. it has. it's now out. what now? i mean, how do you see this playing out in washington? >> well, you know, you heard some of the commentary there saying he's a private citizen now. but one of the big questions for people in washington is, is he, um, he he will start shortly as a news anchor on a conservative station. but one of the bigger questions is will matt gaetz try to have a comeback, either in congress again at some point or perhaps in the senate or as florida's governor, as a candidate for governor? so i think if he proceeds with a political campaign in the coming months or year, um, it will renew a lot of this conversation. but what you're seeing is not just the president elect saying, you know, very unfair, but a number of president-elect trump's allies. tel

let's bring in axios senior contributor margaret talev.he is also the director at the institute for democracy, journalism and citizenship at syracuse university. should i call you professor margaret? >> sorry. just doctor. okay. okay. >> doctor. doctor. margaret. very good. happy holidays to you. thank you so much. so okay, so let's talk about kind of the machinations here. you know, biden, you know, was in the shadows during this latest kerfuffle, you know, with the plan a not going through plan b not going through. and now this plan c you know passing. and soon it will be on his desk and he will be signing it. but reportedly he was involved in the discussions of that original bipartisan bill. and i wonder, you know, what does this influence of of trump and musk, you know, say about the process in what is a lame duck presidency in the final, you know, 30 days or so of the sitting president? but what does this perhaps portray about what is to come in, how negotiations from capitol hill to the white house will be like yeah, i do think it's