on sunday by the political edhon on sunday by the political editor, glen owen and his deputy, anna mikhailovamusk and cummings in plot to sabotage uk politics. so this is the suggestion that behind every elon musk tweet is dominic cummings, formerly or best known perhaps as boris johnson's closest adviser, known before that as the chairman of vote leave. what do we think? >> i mean, it's just a fantastic headline, isn't it, to get started, all the kind of major characters in every news story. a great plot twist, bringing back an old fan favourite in dominic cummings. you know, this is the guy who masterminded the brexit campaign. he masterminded bofis brexit campaign. he masterminded boris johnson's massive election victory in 2019, and then had that rather infamous falling out with boris after the even more infamous trip up to barnard castle. yes, i happen to think that dominic cummings is probably the smartest person in british politics. i think he's right about every major problem and failing in the british state. and i think he's also right about all the ways that you need to fix it, which

anna mikhailova. who's here? good to see you. good morning. this morning. this is an issue which is not going anywhere. and yet it would seem it's just not being addressed by government. yeah, absolutely. >> i think i mean, it'll be encouraging to see the nfu now this today take what seems like quite positive steps just in terms of i mean, from what i can see, the events today will be effectively farmers pulling out their tractors, pulling up a stool in the town centre and just highlighting what they do, how they do it, and raising awareness, which is all what this is about. i think it's in quite stark contrast to what we've seen before, which was when i remember i was there, all the tractors blocked whitehall and it was extraordinary. but people don't love roads getting blocked and all of that, so they. >> don't love roads being blocked. but i tell you what, it was a wonderful sight. >> it was actually i walked i walked down along the side, all of them. and it was extraordinary to see. but you can't do 1560 00:08:59,952 -