but first, i'm going to get a legal opinion down the line from friend of the program, ivan samson, specialistration lawyer. ivan, the last government put legislation in place to say they were going to get tough. they'd solved the problem. this government takes a different approach. i mean, nothing is going to change, is it? >> no. i totally agree with you, nigel. and this is just another gimmick of the government wanting to be seen to be doing something. and the policy now seems to be smash the gangs and this new 78 page bill. i mean, the first part is in four parts. the first part creates the position of border command. you don't need legislation to do that. the home secretary created that. the home secretary created that post anyway. again, it's like this scene would be seen to be doing something, criminalising those handling boat parts or other articles. there's one problem. the people who are organising this will never land on british soil. how do we prosecute somebody who's never going to be in the uk? the person behind all this? they don't set foot in the uk. it'll be the people in the