krish o'mara vignarajah, president - change course.ceo of global refuge, thank you. the trump administration says — it issued the change in refguee policy because the entry of additional refugees would be detrimental to the interests of the united states. it did say it mayjointly make exceptions and admit refugees on a case—by—case basis when in the national interest, and there is no threat to america s security or welfare. let's turn to some other important news around the world. the un head, antonio guterres, has called on rwanda to withdraw its forces from eastern congo and halt support for m23 fighters advancing on the key city of goma. the un security council has been meeting to discuss the escalation in fighting which has seen four hundred thousand people displaced in less than a month. thirteen foreign peacekeepers are among hundreds of people killed in recent days. speaking at the un session, the country's foreign minister, said rwanda's forces had crossed into congolese territory in what amounted to a "declaration of war." sud

joining me now is krish o'mara, vignarajah president and ceo at global refugee.e been convicted of at least two petty offenses are subject to potential deportation. this new bill is streamlining that process for people who have just been charged or arrested. walk us through the consequences of that. >> so we are talking about people who may have simply been charged. they have not been convicted. they have not gone through a court proceeding. and so this legislation raises the question of whether these individuals should be subject to detention. obviously, there has been, you know, some credible evidence to support an indictment. and as a result, i think there is an acknowledgment that these individuals may pose a threat. our concern is just ensuring that they have gone through due process that we are not we are not denying people's right to liberty. we are not deporting them without going through a court proceeding. but certainly we understand where members of congress are coming from in order to protect our citizens. i think it is a concern when you think about

krish, welcome. good to see you. >> thanks for having me back on. >> so so this assistance ranges from caseworker support to housing. what does this mean to you. how do you interpret this new order of freezing a refugee services. and this would start and has started immediately. >> yeah. >> it was surprising. >> to get a. >> letter on friday afternoon. essentially saying stop operations. we're carefully reviewing the. >> order to ensure compliance. >> of course, and to explore all of our options in terms of how do we continue to serve, in particular, the afghan allies who risked their lives to protect our u.s. troops. the idea that for some, they'll be arriving this week, upcoming week, the next month. we're obviously grateful that the administration didn't pause their ability to seek protection here in the u.s. and to avoid taliban taliban retribution. but the question is, how do we make sure we can pick them up at the airport, that we can find them affordable housing so they don't go homeless, that

krish, good to see you.to this because in addition to more troops at the border, the trump administration threw out policies protecting sensitive locations, including schools, daycares, churches. what does this say to newly arrived immigrants who may have fled violence for places where their children and families can be safe? what are parents supposed to tell kids when the administration uses military aircraft to carry out deportations? this could have. >> a. >> profound impact. >> on immigrant. >> communities and. >> the broader public. and, you know. >> we are hearing. >> from immigrant families. who they're scared, the chilling effect that this was intended to have. it's working, and it's sad when you see changes like the sensitive locations of churches, hospitals, schools now being potential hunting grounds, because that policy existed to ensure that people could have access to essential services like schools, hospitals, places of worship without fear of apprehension. and so i think without it, what we w

our priscilla thompson is near the border in el paso and also with us, krish o'mara vignarajah, presidenteo of global refuge, which supports refugees and migrants here in the u.s. gabe, in her first high profile moment as dhs secretary, kristi noem's here in new york overseeing these immigration actions. what's her role today and what are you seeing so far? >> hi there. >> good morning. >> well, kristi noem is here today. this comes after trump's border czar, tom homan, was in chicago over the weekend as well as yesterday. this is all part of the trump administration and trying to publicize these immigration enforcement actions and providing a lot of videos and still still pictures of these operations happening. >> this morning. >> we've already seen several arrests in and around the new york city area, and this is all part of that push to really publicize these operations more and more. now, according to a senior administration official, we did find that there were 1200 arrests on on sunday, and that is a larger number than we had seen last week. however, according to that official, abou

nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley and krish o'mara vignarajah, president and ceo of global refuge, which helps refugees settle here in the united states. or at least you. you were with migrants in ciudad juarez when they found out about their asylum appointments being canceled. there's that video that you recorded of how they reacted to the news. let me go to that. >> amiga. icu for. >> my niece. what was that moment like? >> well, to tell the truth, there is a there was a lot of shock in the beginning. like people didn't know how to react. they were looking for confirmation either through friends and family or from us or mexican officials who were coming down the bridge to deliver the news. and it was shock. and then as slowly as time progressed, people realized that their opportunity to enter the united states had evaporated with the executive order. >> and so the, the cbp one actually shut down and then also released the appointments that had been already agreed to were canceled as well. >> that's correct. a lot of the people who were in line at that time, they

now, krish, we know what the polling is telling us.ajority of brits want this crisis to end. they want to control their borders. they don't want the small boats to keep coming. labour decriminalising, illegal migration essentially today, basically overturning the illegal migration act. more people are going to come, more boats are going to come. that's a reality, isn't it. >> matt, it's good to be with you. i think we agree on a lot. matt, i agree with you that we do need strong borders and that we're not really a country if we don't have strong borders. and i see in labour an agreement with you there too. they are trying to increase border security. they're treating the whole criminal gangs as a terrorist, counter—terrorist movement. they are trying to increase the number of crimes that you can be tried for, whether you're trying to facilitate a crossing, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing anything that's going to help someone to get across, they

now, krish, we know what the polling is telling us. majority of brits want this crisis to end. they want to control their borders. they don't want the small boats to keep coming. labour decriminalising, illegal migration essentially today, basically overturning the illegal migration act. more people are going to come, more boats are going to come. that's a reality, isn't it. >> matt, it's good to be with you. i think we agree on a lot. matt, i agree with you that we do need strong borders and that we're not really a country if we don't have strong borders. and i see in labour an agreement with you there too. they are trying to increase border security. they're treating the whole criminal gangs as a terrorist, counter—terrorist movement. they are trying to increase the number of crimes that you can be tried for, whether you're trying to facilitate a crossing, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing anything that's going to help someone to get across, the

so joining me for the next few hours, director of the charity sanctuary foundation, doctor krish kandiah and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. coming up, rachel reeves says that she will launch a war on waste. perhaps she should go first to stabilise public finances. amid growing disquiet from her mps over her handling of the economy. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you trust rachel reeves to reduce government waste? my poll is live on the gb news website, so head over there and vote. now in my niggle, i'll be taking on tulip siddiq head on. you couldn't make it up. labour's anti—corruption minister is being investigated for, yes, you've guessed it, corruption. despite sir keir starmer saying this in the summer, i'm absolutely determined to restore honesty and integrity to government because i think that is core to ensuring that people appreciate that politics can be a force for good. and in my interview, i'll be speaking to the award winning filmmaker andrew drury. now he is credited with being the journalist who knows isis bride shamima begum the best. h