this is where these organizations to include the nabj that i believe wholeheartedly in the premise of group, has to stand for the black journalists that will be in the room. we've seen this before. i mean, even at the conversation with then-candidate trump at the nabj, you know, one of the journalists -- i'm not going to say who. you can figure it out -- got a lot of hate mail, hate email. i'm not going to go into what she was seeing, but it was a lot of hate. and she wasn't used to that. and she -- you know, i believe she had to get some protection at one point. but, you know, it's a very hostile environment already. but then you're going to add on the president of the united states who could say something that could incite someone who doesn't understand the process, who doesn't understand democracy and understand that journalism and journalists are just as patriotic as anyone else. it's part of the pillars of this country, the first amendment, not the second, not the third, the first. freedom of the press. >> for those who do not understand how serious an issue this is, there was re