joining us now is mayor randall woodfin of birmingham, alabama. his new book, son of birmingham a memoir, is out now. mr. mayor, thanks for joining us, casey. >> good morning. thanks for allowing me to have some time with you. >> so let's start with what the president has done here. what impact will this stripping of dei offices from the federal government ultimately have? >> listen, the unfortunate part of this conversation of stripping dei americans are witnessing the alabama vacation of federal government. we've seen in alabama, legislators create laws to get rid of dei. and the governor signed into law that removing dei from colleges and universities and other aspects throughout the state. and so we've seen this dance. and the unfortunate part is other americans have witnessed this at the national level. that being the case, we all know those who benefit the most from dei are veterans as well as white women. and so dei has always gone well beyond african americans and other minorities. when you say you don't want to have programs that support

even talking about the mayors such as frank scott and little rock or or chokwe lumumba or, uh, randall woodfinandre dickens. et cetera. et cetera. so i think the i think the future is bright. we just have to be able to see it for the clouds. >> well, we will see everyone. thank you. thank you so much for being here tonight. on the eve of the second inauguration. up next, the reunification seen around the world. three israeli hostages finally brought home as the cease fire deal brings new hope to the others who are still waiting. the mother of two children who are awaiting the return of their father, joins me next. >> you give my exams, i give fresh starts, better vision, healthy eyes. everybody wants that hero. doc saves vision. well, hero owl saves money. use your vision insurance for exams, glasses and contacts. all at america's best life diabetes. >> there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carb steady glucerna bring on the day at harbor freight, we do bus

i much rather prefer him going into little rock with frank scott or birmingham with randall woodfin or atlanta with andre dickens. but but let's let's ask david. >> let's ask david, how did barack obama do it? he deported a lot of people. >> yeah, more than donald trump. >> can i just ask you how you do it? i want to ask david a different question, which is just kind of picking up where your friend rahm emanuel left off with me this morning on kind of what you're talking about, which is how do democrats pick and choose where to say hair on fire with donald trump almost certainly going to fulfill all of the promises that he made, at least rhetorically? well, on issues that they don't believe in, promises, then then he's going to have problems. >> they have to be discreet about which ones are actually popular. but democrats also have to be commonsensical. people do want the border under control. people do want accountability. when, when, when people break the law, whether they're presidents or immigrants. and so, you know, i think they have to be thoughtful. and if he does things. listen