raymond james tavis mccourt is here to look at that for us today. vc bradley tusk on why it's going to be hard not to use deep sea cybersecurity ceo. >> ivan sarine is back to talk about the hack and how deep sea got so good so quickly. and deirdre bosa, who is all over this story before everyone else. welcome to all of you, bradley. >> i just thought it. >> was interesting what you said about people using this model. by the way, i tried i tried. finally to download it this morning and couldn't. maybe that's because of the hack, but what's your experience been and what do you think? you know, the take up ultimately will be here in the us of this chinese offering. >> yeah. >> i mean, look, as an early. >> stage venture. >> investor. >> there's no such. >> thing as investing in a. >> company that. >> isn't either. >> an ai. >> company or. >> using ai in some way. >> or. at least. >> has an. >> extremely good reason if they're not. but if they're using. >> ai in. >> some way, then the cost obviously becomes very material and really important. >> and us

at tavi with us. i want to play a sand bite -- a sound bite.get in to people's homes. here's what he had to say. >> this is people trying to get in wearing uniforms of fire marshals and uniform of security companies. wearing a vest and it looks like people from the power company and they are trying to get in in any way and any means. >> martha: welcome, nathan hochman. explained to us your reaction to that. people dressing up in rescue outfits in order to rip people's homes off. >> here is my reaction. i'm one of the 180,000 people who have been evacuated mandatorily. my sister has a house in pacific palisades that is no more. that has burned down along with hundreds of her neighbour's houses all along that area. i view people who are trying to take advantage of this tragedy for their own illegal profits as despicable. and i sent an unmistakably clear message to that that they will be arrested and prosecuted and they will be punished to the full extent of the law. and it is a warning because i don't want any ambiguity or in the future or confus

at tavi with us.h happening so quickly but let me me get your thoughts on something we just mentioned in the intro which is that the trump administration is taking steps to deputize u.s. state and local law enforcement to work with ice. how would that work and clearly there will be some cities where they will refuse to do that, right? >> this is an example of how president trump is unleashing a vast and broad array of federal statutory authority to secure the homeland. authorities that congress has enacted that exists in statute that have never been used before. the secretary of homeland security has the authority to deputize both federal law enforcement as well as state and local law enforcement and the national guard to conduct immigration enforcement activities. the secretary of homeland security has already used the authority to deputize other federal law enforcement including all the law enforcement branches at doj and that authority will be leveraged shortly to deputize state owned law enforceme

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tavis. thank you. thank you so much. from west palm beach, florida.re going to go now to charles coleman jr, former brooklyn, new york prosecutor, now civil rights lawyer and msnbc legal analyst. a good friend to us. so here's the question, charles, are you convinced pam bondi, again, trump's pick for ag will operate with the independence we should expect from that office. will she push back if trump wants her to go against doj regulations and bury the special counsel report? >> alex, to answer all of those questions, the answer is no. >> we can. >> we've seen this movie before and we know how it ends. >> we can expect very little from pam bondi except for doing exactly what donald trump wants her to do. >> as you have already talked about, the office of the attorney general, the department of justice is supposed to be an independent law enforcement arbiter. that basically makes sure that the law is upheld. and i don't necessarily know that under a pam bondi regime, if you will, that the department of justice is going to do that because of the immense