the walls, an indication that israeli forces had been in this house and then left, at which point yahya sinwar, with his small team of hamas militants, went into the house and laid a map out on the floor and were planning future attacks against the israelis. so as we look forward here, we can expect more of these types of videos to come out of gaza amid this agreement. >> incredible, trey, incredible information. thank you for your time this morning. we'll let you get back to following this developing news as, again, people in israel at hostage square celebrating with joy and relief the return of four of their female israeli soldiers in a hostage release deal. this week, we also have jameel jaffer. he's the director of the national security law and policy program at george mason university, and former chief counsel and senior advisor for the senate foreign relations committee. thank you for again, joining me, your reaction to what we've been watching unfold live this morning. >> obviously, a big day for the israeli community, the entire israeli community, to get these these four young w

they were known to be near yahya sinwar, the former militant leader of the military wing of hamas, whenne of them was found weighing just 36 kilograms. another�*s arm was blown off. all of them were executed by hamas. everyday the hostages remain in custody is a day their lives are in jeopardy and were desperate to have them home but we�*re not taking any of the news circulated recently as anything new. ourfamily have not been contacted, we�*ve not had official confirmation from any government source, any idf source. any update about the negotiations, as far as we�*re concerned, this isjust potential psychological warfare, either by... from whatever party, trying to put pressure on the israeli government, perhaps, we don�*t know, but there�*s nothing here that really gives us much soccer other than the hope that tsachi is still alive. —— that really gives as much succour. we gather there are direct talks in doha, obviously there have been lots of talks before, indirect or otherwise, but do you think these latest talks might bear any fruit? we have been here _ might bear any fruit? we ha

its main commander in gaza, yahya sinwar, was killed in october. are hard to verify but israel claimed in september to have killed 17,000 hamas fighters. for all that, the americans believe the group could still come back. each time israel completes its military operations and pulls back, hamas militants regroup and re—emerge, because there's nothing else to fill the void. indeed, we assess that hamas has recruited almost as many new militants as it has lost. those new recruits may have fewer tunnels to hide in, they may get fewer weapons from a weakened iran, and they may be younger and more inexperienced than the trained fighters they are replacing, but they can still fight. they still have small groups in some different areas who could fight israel for a very long time, because they work like a militia now, not like before the 7th of october, as a semi—army in gaza. so hamas is weakened. its ability to mount a sustained military operation is much reduced. but it hasn't been destroyed, something israel's prime the inauguration outside. doesn't ma

sinwar one of -- yeah yahya sinwar one of the mast masterminds behind the october 7th massacre.er handing this to me, we understand the hostages are in good condition, and again, they are on their way to thish s df if meeting point -- the idf meeting point where they'll be reunited with their mothers along the border. and, again, you just hear these cheers in the crowd in hostage square in tel aviv where demonstrators have been coming out every single week demanding an agreement. the deal being implemented as we speak is very similar to the deal that was on the table last may. the difference here, president-elect trump sent his middle east envoy, steve witkoff, to doha, pushed this deal across the line. and we will see not only these hostages released, but if the deal moves forward, 333 of them in phase one -- 33. and if phase the two moves forward, the rest of the hostages that were held by hamas for the past 470 days. bill, or dana? bill: remarkable stuff. trey, your producer says the three hostages are how now in the hands of the red cross. they've been seen walking, and they

on those enemies, and we were able to hit out at our army on seven fronts, we eradicated nasrallah, yahyand destroyed most of the arms of the syrian army and we are talking about the yemenite �*s as well, the houthis in yemen, for example, and the entire uranian access, and as i promised you, we change the face of the middle east and as a result of all that come hamas has remained blown, completely hit at and alone on that front. so therefore we were able now to reach an agreement. hamas agreed now to things that they did not agree to in the past. the citizens of israel, this war is making tremendous demands of us. but we have to. this is an existential fight. we have to take into account all our security and our defence requirements. i cannot actually enumerate them here at the moment, the 7th of october it was a horrific blow and terrible pain, but with shared forces we push them back and we achieved amazing achievements. so the entire world were extremely impressed by these accomplishments. the state of israel ic with tremendous elevation of spirit, the way with your emotional strength

if it was more military pressure, if it was the killing of yahya sinwar, there was an obstacle. and each time there was a new obstacle that came about. and sometimes you feel that those obstacles were artificial. and i think that what we need to focus on now is that with this current government, we need to make sure that they have the best, which they do of 75% constantly. of the people of israel that have been polled that said that they are willing for a deal that releases all of the hostages for a long standing ceasefire. and that is the energy that this government needs to move forward with. and then there needs to be an election. after what happened to the state of israel on october 7th to get a confirmation that this is indeed the elected officials that the state of israel wishes to have going forward for its new chapter and we should note that one member, right wing member of netanyahu's government left the government earlier today in protest of this agreement coming through. >> well, ruby, again, i want you to know that we at cnn, our hearts go out to you on this day, and

its main commander in gaza, yahya sinwar, was killed in october. are hard to verify but israel claimed in september to have killed 17,000 hamas fighters. for all that, the americans believe the group could still come back. each time israel completes its military operations and pulls back, hamas militants regroup and re—emerge, because there's nothing else to fill the void. indeed, we assess that hamas has recruited almost as many new militants as it has lost. those new recruits may have fewer tunnels to hide in, they may get fewer weapons from a weakened iran, and they may be younger and more inexperienced than the trained fighters they are replacing, but they can still fight. they still have small groups in some different areas who could fight israel for a very long time, because they work like a militia now, not like before the 7th of october, as a semi—army in gaza. so hamas is weakened. its ability to mount a sustained military operation is much reduced. but it hasn't been destroyed, something israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu once pro

it's leader yahya sinwar was killed in october.october 7th it was an organized military formation, it invaded israel. it is now no longer able to do that. it does not have military capacity. >> but that argues that israel has done something that may backfire on them in terms of the humanitarian situation that has allowed hamas not to lose support but to continue to recruit. >> to get -- i've worked closely with my israeli colleagues, spent hours with prime minister netanyahu. this is a deal that he fully supports. there is a moral debt to these hostages, you have to get them out and israel will make sure that it protects its national security and we will make sure we do that. we got this deal without that wider middle east war that everybody was predicting. americans did not get drawn into a wider middle east war, with he defended israel from iranian missiles, we supported israel going after hezbollah and hamas, we have dee feigned the proxy networks and that led to the isolation of hamas to get this deal today. that's how we got t

one of them was yahya sinwar, who turned out, ultimately, to be the leader of hamas, who mastermindeder 7th attack. and here we are today with israel making a pledge, if this deal is followed through, of releasing many palestinian prisoners who, to most israelis, have blood on their hands, some who have been convicted of multiple murders, including bus bombs. do you think that any israeli prime minister right now should be releasing those kinds of people? look, when i was prime minister, i didn't fight so much. ijust refused to make the deal with hamas because i thought that under no circumstances should we release one israeli soldier for a few hundred palestinian murderers and killers. and i didn't do it, full stop. so what you're saying that even though you're a man who opposes netanyahu because you think he actually needs to make compromises for peace, you're now telling me he shouldn't be releasing palestinian prisoners? oh, you didn't hear a thing. i didn't say it. you just have to be patient. what i said is that i refused to do it. when there was one israeli soldier who was abdu

he is now a very familiar face because it was yahya al—sinwar, who went on to be the leader of hamasth of october attack, the most deadly attack on the israeli military. he was a free man that day. the free from the far right in israel is that they are letting the door open now for another character like that to emerge.— that to emerge. you mention resent that to emerge. you mention present trump. _ that to emerge. you mention present trump. how - that to emerge. you mention present trump. how crucial i present trump. how crucial he'll be in that he doesn't seem to like conflict and war and how much pressure will he be putting on all of the parties to try and make it all the way through the three phases of the ceasefire deal and then look at what if anything happens in the future? there is absolutely no doubt that donald trump was the game changer in getting this deal to happen. he wants it to last. he has said he wants an end to this war. this isjust has said he wants an end to this war. this is just opposed to the war. he wants it not to resume. those far right ministers in israel

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meanwhile, numerous reports suggest that hamas is regroups, recruiting, reenergizing and hamas leader yahya sinwar was recruited by his brother mohammad sinwar has become the new leader. if, and it's a big if, the hostages are released in two phases, and israel troops are mandated to leave gaza, and a thousand palestinian prisoners released from israeli jails and hamas is rebuilding, itself, how can this be a good deal? steve whit kuff devin benefit of the doubt and hostage increase. perhaps president trump will give israel to ban the nuclear facility and idf intends to destroy hamas all together as incoming defense secretary pete hegseth testified yesterday, he supports killing every last member of hamas, incoming national security adviser mike walz repeated and marco rubio testified today that if hamas is there, there'll never be a ceasefire. perhaps, perhaps but knowing what we think we know, hamas will remain in power in gaza. israel's military presence will end in gaza. not goods. i always thought we just unleash the idf against all the middle east tariffs and that we'd all be grateful

they yahya moms past several months developed petitions are with 400,000 signatures to ask what the heckod? why are there 10,000 chemicals in our food that aren't allowed in europe? things likes a astro jean turns testosterone into he is astro again. blue 4, other chemicals that president trump and bobby kennedy said they are going to look at. they have woken up the conscience of americans. and i got to tell you it's just amazing. president trump hasn't even been sworn into office and promises are already being kept. the biden administration rushing to get this done first is a real sign of the impact president trump and bobby kennedy have had. >> ainsley: why has it taken so long? you say 95% of usda is paid for by food companies. is that the reason? >> president trump and bobby kennedy not trying to come in and do command and control regulations. but they are going to look at the conflicts of interest. it's absolutely unacceptable that the usda to this day doesn't even look at the chemicals in our food. it's self-regulation. again, chemicals not allowed in europe. the fact our dietary g

we took out haniya, we took out yahya sinwar. we, uh, eliminated the mohammed deif all the leadership of hamas or most of the leadership and the lion's share of their force. but at this point in time, yeah, we saw the pictures of of those animals, those terrorists who chanting. uh, let's do october 7th, uh, again and again, while israelis are chanting israel, let let us live. this is what we're facing. we will ultimately achieve all three goals. but right now, i think the main goal is to bring all the hostages home asap. >> mm. i should note, as you've been speaking there, mr. bennett, the helicopter that we now see having taken off is carrying those three hostages. hostages? back to here in israel, where they will be taken to a hospital for further for further evaluation. before we go, the outlines of this agreement have been on the table for some months, going back to may, when president biden introduced this as a framework. and yet it didn't happen until the very final hours of the biden administration, with significant pressu

but also bear in mind that yahya sinwar is gone. he got killed. his brother now is resurrecting hamas and an attempt to make it a fighting force. look, they've had some pretty good recruitment. but these are not fighters. these are passionate new recruits. but this is a very dangerous, dangerous time. and also the ieds, the unexploded ordinance that exists within gaza, now become weapon systems. if it's not monitored in some way. so that's just kind of a tip of the iceberg view of how difficult this really is. >> so that's from a military point of view. beth sanner you spent your career in intelligence, and what is it that you're looking at as this becomes right? spider makes all these great points about just logistically how all this will play out. and, you know, one part of the deal is 600 trucks of aid are supposed to be going in a day. and we know how those things have gone awry and caused conflict. >> we know dozens of idf have been killed during this period. so politically, we also have to add the level of difficulty. this is why this agreem

know from previous exchanges that such prisoners go back to to committing acts of terror, such as yahya sinwar, the former head of hamas, who was released in a in a prisoner exchange of 2011. um, and we have to think about the families of all the of all the people who were murdered by those terrorists who have to now confront a reality in which the people who murdered their loved ones are going home to a hero's welcome, but their loved ones remain in the ground. so it is a very fragmented and very fraught reaction by the israeli public. >> i want to kind of take a take your time and talk big picture for a second, because i was just handed a really interesting piece that it looks like it was just published in the free press that you wrote uh, ambassador, uh, and in it you talk about how difficult it was for israel in the approach that it took from the beginning, after the october 7th attack on, on, on its land and on its people. because you say from day one, israel's twin goals in gaza were fundamentally irreconcilable. and the argument that you make and i just got it, and i've been able

hamas for the first time isolated its leader, yahya sinwar was dead. and that opened up the possibility to get this deal. and it was not until the end of december that hamas finally was ready to say, these are the hostages we're going to release. so then we are in a negotiation about what the equation will be, what the exchange will be. and that's what really allowed us to get this deal here. just a couple of nights ago. >> yeah. it's so impressive. and we're really glad that it worked out and impressed with the cooperation with the incoming administration on all these details as well. brett mcgurk thanks. thanks so much for all your important work. we appreciate it very much. >> well, thanks so much. >> and just ahead, we're going to stay on top of the breaking news. the gaza ceasefire deal finally approved by the full israeli cabinet after hours, several hours of deliberation. but there's other news we're following as well, including the dramatic changes to donald trump's inauguration on monday as frigid weather moves into the nation's capital. we'll

. >> well, the israeli defense forces, michael, decimated hamas leadership and they took out yahya sinwarader of hamas. and from that perspective, hamas has been badly damaged, debilitated, and they don't have a command and control system. they also lost a major ally in hezbollah, the terrorist army that lives on israel's northern border inside lebanon. that's one of the key proxies for iran. in addition, after iran attacked israel with ballistic missiles, drones and cruise missiles back in april and then again in october, the united states, israel and a coalition of countries took out those missiles. and then israel conducted operations inside iran, deep inside iran, taking out not only iran's air defenses but their ballistic missile production capability. so iran was left without hezbollah, without their ballistic missiles, without their air defenses. and then the regime in syria, the assad regime, which had long been an ally of tehran, collapsed. and so you've got the remnants of hamas badly weakened without regional allies, and they had to make a deal. this all happened, michael, real

we know that people who orchestrated october 7th, yahya sinwar were in israeli jails. we let them out. in previous deals. so it's very, very painful. and we also don't know how many of these hostages are coming home alive. >> yeah. i mean, is there a full accounting that israel. i mean, has israel ever gotten from through the red cross or directly? >> absolutely not. no. absolutely not. >> which is obviously, you know, against all international regulations and the red cross hasn't had access to them. what, the three phases. i'm wondering what you make of this actual plan and the chance that one of these phases may fall apart? >> well, hamas has always violated the ceasefire. it violated the ceasefire on october 7th, 2023, there was a cease fire. it violated the last ceasefire of november 2023. so the chances that hamas would violate the ceasefire again are very, very great, especially if you have all these different factions in gaza. and hamas will say, we're not in control of them. they're going to start firing phase 133 hostages, 42 day cease fire, releasing 1300 pri

remember yahya sinwar, the now deceased leader of hamas in gaza, was a prisoner released by israel. the terms of this deal, the numbers are a little hazy, but is roughly 50 palestinian prisoners for every israeli hostage, some of whom, by the way, are going to be dead. and we don't know how many of the hundred that hamas is still believed to hold are actually still alive, which demonstrates the barbarity and the cynicism of hamas playing on the understandable emotions of hostage families. for months now, knowing that the hostages were dead, the only negotiation you should have with hamas is to find any of them who might be left to sign the unconditional surrender. that's the only negotiation i would have with this brutal terrorist group. >> all right, sir, i want to ask you about something that we're seeing here at home with the former president who invoked your name. the former president. president elect invoked your name in a post on his truth social platform overnight. and it seems to be something of a blacklist for people who worked for or were supported by a number of figures i

make no mistake that these people who are right now chanting yahya sinwar and we're going to do october 7th again, that is not the way forward. we will fight them as much as we need until we win again. tactically, things could be done differently, better, and ultimately they will be done better and we will win. >> do you think israel is safer today than it was after october 7th? >> yes. many of hamas's abilities, hezbollah's abilities have been dramatically reduced. but have we achieved the objectives that the three objectives that the government set? no we haven't. i got to be honest, and i think we have to prosecute th war, conduct the war in a much more effective way. >> the two state solution is still the thing that the americans are holding on to. >> they want to see it. it's not something that i think you can argue that the palestinians want. >> i think they want one state, a palestinian state. it's not something that the israelis want. >> they want one state. >> they want an israeli state is a two state solution ever going to be possible? >> and if so, do you think there's ever g

prisoner exchanges, and once they see the names and the identities and the crimes of some of them, yahyaas one of those prisoners who was exchanged by israel, as you know, some 11 or 12 years ago. but also we have to talk about the 46, 47,000 palestinians who have died. this war has been horrific. it was started by hamas, 1200 people killed, you know, hundreds taken hostage. but the horrors of it all have just been profound and throughout the region. and you're absolutely right. the next step could well be iran. we're going to have to leave it there on this very busy day. michael oren, as always, thank you. thank you so much. and next, we'll break down a very busy week of those confirmation hearings. the tiktok news, the top democrat on the critical senate finance committee as well as the health committee. this is as the health committee. this is andrea mitchell, reports on nothing brings us together like eggland's best eggs. always so fresh and delicious. plus, superior nutrition. for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. (vo) oof, stuck paying for that o

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and yet here we are, just after killing haniyeh and yahya sinwar and all the others, has managed to create an immediate new generation that has just entered into a negotiation with israel, with a robust recruitment apparatus. >> i mean, so, ben, what is your level of optimism? i mean, we know what phase one is. and i think to eamonn's point, it should be celebrated that there could be a tentative peace, that lives could be saved in this peaceful period, that hostages could be returned. but in terms of your level of optimism about this, holding through stages two and three, which seem tricky even on paper, to say nothing of the realities that ayman just outlined. where are you on this? >> i mean, i, i wouldn't say i'm optimistic. i'm hopeful. let's put it that way. i mean, look, the relief for the people of gaza is extraordinary. and you see it on the streets and just getting aid in just having some peace for some period of time is transformational from what they've been through. however, there are massive questions. alex and ayman teed up some of them. who is going to be responsible for th

ever since then, inside the gaza strip, they never zero wore uniforms, including yahya sinwar when he was killed. that's a terror organization. it's a terror entity. it's what i call a terror army. so that they're using that. we've never said that we've destroyed all of the weapons. we've never claimed that we could destroy all of the weapons. but that's exactly what they want to show, that they still exist. because for a terror army, you use terror tactics. and when it's convenient, you view yourself as an army. so they're doing both. and one additional aspect about that propaganda staged moment. my heart broke when i saw those four young women in uniform. you know why? because they were taken in their pajamas. when you look at the film that was put out on the day that they were seized so brutally from their base on october 7th, the five of them, as i said, one has not been brought back, are in their pajamas. they're in t-shirts and in shorts. what they were wearing when they were taken from their beds. and here they're being paraded in uniforms as if they were fighting against israe

number of years ago, one of the people who was released for the the israeli hostage, gilad shalit, was yahya sinwar, who then went on to become the leader of hamas very quickly. >> what's changed here is not hamas as much, although they obviously are are diminished. what's changed is the region, right? hezbollah has been destroyed. syria is no longer run by assad. hamas is diminished. and that's what creates the opportunity here. and that iran no longer has that octopus like hold over the entire region. that's trump's opportunity. >> all right. we'll see if he takes that opportunity. and we're staying on top of the breaking news in the middle east. more after a quick break. >> like a relentless we'd moderate to severe ulcerative colitis. symptoms can keep coming back start to break away from uc with tremfya with rapid relief at four weeks tremfya blocks a key source of inflammation. at one year, many people experienced remission and some saw 100% visible healing of their intestinal lining. serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections may occur before treatment. your doctor sho

and even at one point when they believed that yahya sinwar, the leader of hamas, was somehow bunkered in with the hostages around him, that did not turn out to be the case when he was ultimately killed alone, as you also mentioned, incidentally, during a raid in southern gaza. so by any measure, hamas has come out of this war saying all of this could have been prevented. when you go back to november of 20, 2023, when hamas said, we will release the first 100 hostages in that brokered ceasefire, that temporary ceasefire that allowed for the largest amount of hostages to be released. but the road ahead is going to be critical. and going back to your point about the implementation, whether or not there are going to be guarantors that can securely implement this deal, that is going to be very difficult. i think a lot of skepticism remains as to whether or not after the first phase, which is the release of 33 hostages, as well as the withdrawal of israeli troops to the periphery of urban areas and population centers in gaza, whether or not israel and the palestinians, and certainly hamas,

first of all, the killing of yahya sinwar, the the decimation of hezbollah. mean, all things pointed to things going in the wrong direction for hamas. but one of the other factors was growing public discontent in gaza with hamas. and and so the question will be is if this deal comes about, will they will they view. will hamas be treated better for coming at this deal after 15 months? and if they if they don't play along, will the people of gaza turn back around on them? that's a big unknown, because in any type of insurgency, which is what israel is going to face in the coming months and maybe longer, it depends on the support of the people by supporting them in gaza and i might add, importantly, iran as well. that's a whole nother discussion about iran's role here. but that will be an important point to to see, brianna, is will the people of gaza support hamas? >> yeah. amazing to think we may see hostages coming home here in just a couple of days. secretary esper, thank you so much. let's hope. yeah. every moment. counting now for firefighters in los angele

and yahya sinwar the architect of october 7th, though he was killed, his his brother has now taken a leadership position. so, you know, and by the way, there was always a question as to whether that was possible in gaza completely eliminating hamas. but you have that open question, and then you have the political pressure here. netanyahu wants his government to survive. he will lose members of his government. does he place his own political future over carrying out the latter stages of this deal? and that, by the way, is something that he's been accused of by many israelis, including by hostage families, that he's placed his own political interests above the interests of those hostages and the hostage families here. so again, listen, there is hope and anticipation about what's to take place later today. but it's always clouded, colored by the fear that another roadblock can get in the way. right. and that's what folks will be watching for. but i suppose the focus for now is on those glimmers of hope that we hope to see come to be in the coming hours. >> yeah, absolutely. jim. appreci

yahya sinwar is dead. a lot of the leadership is dead, but it isn't gone. so that war aim wasn't achieved. and on the international front, you've seen broad condemnation of the way that israel has conducted this war and charges of genocide, etc, coming from the icc and the international community. what position is israel in with this new administration coming in, in your view? >> well, i think unfortunately, it's not just israeli right wing types who are calling for the annexation of west bank. the person who's been named to be the u.s. ambassador to israel, mike huckabee, also has called for that annexation. so i think there are a lot of hard line views. i don't think bibi netanyahu was ever interested in pursuing any type of peace process that would give the palestinians self-determination in their own state, and until those palestinian aspirations are addressed in a meaningful way, i think we're going to continue to have this cycle of violence. yes. i'm so glad that there's a respite in the bloodshed that is going been going on in gaza and for the next 4

yahya sinwar, the mastermind behind the ten over seven attack, was among them. joining me now is former israeli ambassador to the united states, michael oren. mr. ambassador, nice to see you again. i celebrate the release of the hostages. but what happened to the idea of not negotiating with terrorists? >> good morning. >> michael. >> you're absolutely right. >> that idea actually went out the window back in the 1980s, 1985. we had israel first exchanged large numbers of terrorists for israeli soldiers who had fallen captive in lebanon. so there's a long history to this approach. but i think israelis are just about had it. there's discussions now about activating a death penalty against terrorists in israel. israel had a death penalty. it was only used once, back in 1961 against adolf eichmann, one of the architects of the final solution, a nazi. but now people are saying, listen, as long as we have these terrorists in jail and they've killed, in many cases, dozens of israelis, that's actually going to be an incentive to hostage taking. um, i know some of the fa

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about learning from ya hya sinwar when about learning from yahya sinwar when he was released and becameso the israelis don't want to repeat what happened before. so there is discussion about that, but at least for the first part, will be as i said, female soldiers, women, elderly people, and from the palestinians, children and women who were arrested after 7 october. said shehata from bbc arabic, thank you. let's bring you some breaking news from ukraine. there has been a series of loud explosions in kyiv. the authorities say at least three people have been killed. the first explosion came before the air raid siren sounded, and only minutes after the previous all—clear had been given. there is a warning now of ballistic missiles. the city mayor, vitali klitschko, reports a fire in a "non—residential building" and says emergency teams are on their way to the scene. there are some reports of water being cut suddenly in some areas of the city. we will bring you more on that story from our colleagues there in kyiv, as reports come in of a series of missile strikes in ukraine, targeting the

there have been times when yahya sinwar, the leader of hamas in gaza was still lives and things wereo to him for approval and it was taking time —— still alive. you probably don't get many processes, hostage release negotiation processes, that are as complex as this one. well, this one is unusual because _ well, this one is unusual because of the level of complexity. but remember that negotiations between countries, between — negotiations between countries, between northern ireland, and negotiations have really actually been taking place between some of these parties in many— between some of these parties in many ways for decades and years — what has been happening in those — what has been happening in those negotiations is very different. these involve direct communication, leveraging the pressure — communication, leveraging the pressure and the resources of third — pressure and the resources of third parties. qatar stepping up third parties. qatar stepping up and — third parties. qatar stepping up and bringing resources. continuing to build a relationship with each party. egypt — r