our nation's health centers, public interest groups like the diabetes association and other nonprofits interested in health, a lot of them small. host: as the executive director of the american public health association, is rfk junior qualified to serve as health and human services secretary? guest: we believe he is the wrong guy for this job. we don't believe he has the proper training, the management skills and the judgment to do this job well and we saw that on full display during the two hearings he had this week. host: talk about proper training. what is needed? guest: somebody with a background in health. we have had a lot of attorneys in that job but they all had health experience. they have been legislators or they had a broad health experience in healthcare financing or health insurance. he does not have that. he is an environmental lawyer that has been in a very narrow focus area. environment is important for your health but he does not have the broad range of skills necessary for this job. host: management skills, you cited that. guest: hhs is almost a $2 trillion agency with 80,000 employees and 13 operating divisions. it covers everything from before you are bor

our nation's health centers, public interest groups like the diabetes association and other nonprofits interested in health, a lot of them small. host: as the executive director of the american public health association, is rfk junior qualified to serve as health and human services secretary? guest: we believe he is the wrong guy for this job. we don't believe he has the proper training, the management skills and the judgment to do this job well and we saw that on full display during the two hearings he had this week. host: talk about proper training. what is needed? guest: somebody with a background in health. we have had a lot of attorneys in that job but they all had health experience. they have been legislators or they had a broad health experience in healthcare financing or health insurance. he does not have that. he is an environmental lawyer that has been in a very narrow focus area. environment is important for your health but he does not have the broad range of skills necessary for this job. host: management skills, you cited that. guest: hhs is almost a $2 trillion agency with 80,000 employees and 13 operating divisions. it covers everything from before you are bor

but this was the national council of nonprofits, the american public health association, that we're seeing in real time the harms to health care. there were a reports about medicaid portals being closed off the main street alliance, which was small businesses across the country and then an advocacy, a civil rights advocacy organization. and so the federal court, you know, the federal court was able to pause the administration's arbitrary activities. it then extended that pause last week and there will be more briefing. but this is an example of arbitrary behavior by this administration that is deeply, it's not only troubling from a legal perspective, it's troubling from a human perspective, because this isn't serving anyone. and you saw the white house come out scrambling after the court ruled members of congress were having to mobilize because their communities were not getting what they needed. and so i think that this was the courts have, of course, provided a really important check. but i think if this is sort of a preview of how this administration is going to operate, what we're seei

this was the national council of nonprofits, the american public health association that was seeing in the harms to health care. there were reports about medicaid portals being closed. the main street alliance, which is small businesses across the country. and a civil rights advocacy organization. the federal court was able to pause the administration's arbitrary activities and extended that clause last week. there will be more briefing. this is an example of arbitrary behavior by this administration that is not only troubling from a legal perspective, it is troubling from a human perspective because this is not serving anyone. you saw the white house come out scrambling after the court ruled. members of congress were having to mobilize because their communities were not getting what they needed. i think the courts provided an important check. i think this is a preview of how this administration is going to operate. what we are seeing is they are not operating in a way that is making people's lives better in the day to day but operating in a chaotic way causing uncertainty and harm to

this was the national council of nonprofits, the american public health association that was seeing in the harms to health care. there were reports about medicaid portals being closed. the main street alliance, which is small businesses across the country. and a civil rights advocacy organization. the federal court was able to pause the administration's arbitrary activities and extended that clause last week. there will be more briefing. this is an example of arbitrary behavior by this administration that is not only troubling from a legal perspective, it is troubling from a human perspective because this is not serving anyone. you saw the white house come out scrambling after the court ruled. members of congress were having to mobilize because their communities were not getting what they needed. i think the courts provided an important check. i think this is a preview of how this administration is going to operate. what we are seeing is they are not operating in a way that is making people's lives better in the day to day but operating in a chaotic way causing uncertainty and harm to