baylis: i do not believe so. i believe we are unified in the sense that we're trying to develop adapt and adaptive and reconfigurable technology to solve the very spectrum crisis. sen. wicker: would it be helpful if you had somebody inside the team who was the devil's advocate and could bounce these absolute objections against your -- mr. baylis: devil's advocate as to what? sen. wicker: i'll tell you, when we get the military and the skiff, i'm not giving away any secrets. just is absolutely impossible. we can't give an inch, and anything that the chairman might advocate would be detrimental to national security. am i pretty much correct that that's their testimony? mr. baylis: i believe we have objective people on our team that would give me devil -- and do gives me, you know, contrasting views when when they need to be given. i think we've got a team that is working to try to get the best technological solution to the problem, and i think that's our sole goal. sen. wicker: mr. clark, tell us about the idea of

baylis: i'll take this quickly. have to go out and tell people what we're doing and one of the things that i say is, spectrum's the most important dimension of battle. if you can dominate the spectrum, you're going to win the war. so from the d.o.d. side, it's unquestionable. the spectrum is the most important dimension of battle. if you dominate the spectrum you're going to win the war so from the dod side it's unquestionable and back to space force, we're talking with space force people now. the space ecforce the only dimension of battle is spectrum. there are no tanks, there are no soldiers on the ground . just spectrum and we will have to be dominant in spectrum so from the dod side it's important. from the commercial side we are more connected than we've ever been or is spectrum, we learned that during the pandemic because we had to use spectrum to communicate with loved ones and other things so our society sees the need for wirelessdevices . >> anybody else? >> i think the challenge comes into play or we have