bera: i'm going to agree. if there is a priority in the first hundred days it is, what did those guardrails look like? in california the state legislator -- legislator tried to put the guardrails up. we cannot have 50 different regulatory regimes. we should try to figure this out. how do we get that right so we don't stifle innovation but we also, you know, protect the public as well? we did not do it around social media. now we are trying to do it and it is too late. it is really hard to do. ai is moving really fast. i think there is a priority. but the spinning aside. there is a priority to figure that out in a nonpartisan way that allows us to have this innovative ecosystem but also sets those guardrails at the right place. mr. lehane: can i connect two dots here? competition is incredibly important. for those not in ai, the prc released a model in december called deepseek. deepseek competes with the best models in the u.s. at this idea -- and you were hitting on this -- that we are way ahead on this is not

. >> democratic congressman ami bera and john curtis joined a discussion focusing on national securitynd the race against chinese technology. my name is steven overly. i host the daily politico tech podcast. i talk about ai and its vast implications. i don't think the consequences, or potential consequences are more significant when we talk about national security, whether that is competition with china, the war with ukraine. fundamentally, whoever dominates a will wield significant geopolitical power so that is the backdrop of our conversation. i do want to start with some news this morning which many of you may have seen, the biden administration signed an executive order effectively directing the department of defense and the department of energy to identify government sites where ai data centers can be built. senator occurs, as someone who is very focused on ai energy and infrastructure what's your reaction to this latest news? >> to put this in perspective, in utah, at my home state, two-thirds of that state is owned by the federal government so if you are not looking at federal l

. >> representative bera, in the executive order this morning, notably one of the requirements input and companies that build these data centers is that they have to be built using clean energy. to me, it is sort of a prime example when i talk about ai and national security of some of the trade-offs and considerations, right, do you do you rush to develop this technology even at the expense of of climate goals or labor goals? we have seen this administration trying to balance of those. from your perspective, is it a fair trade? if you get government land to build a data center, you have to use clean energy? >> i think it is. there is a bipartisan opportunity. if we think about modular nuclear energy, it is going to be easier to do that under a republican administration and it would be under a democratic administration. very bill gates has invested a lot in this area. first refined by part agreements that mark energy needs of these data centers will be huge, it's not going to be wind or solar. it's going to be a new source of energy. that is an area where we could find some bipartisan

bera, for five minutes. mr. bera: madam speaker, i rise today to honor andra, a holocaust survivor whose remarkable story of survival and education continues to inspire generations. andra and her sister were just 4 and 6 years old when they were taken from their home in italy and sent to auschwitz. a tragic case of mistaken identity saved their lives. josef mengele, the so-called angel of death, believed they were twins and spared them for his inhumane experiments. their father, a prisoner of war in south africa, had no idea his family had survived. their mother, in an act of extraordinarily currently, risked her life to visit them inside the camp, reminding them never to forget their names, never to let their identity be reduced to a tattooed number. after the war, the sisters were plplaced in an orphanage run by anna freud, daughter of sigmund freud. they believed they were alone in the world. until a picture, the same picture they had kissed every night in auschwitz, arrived with a letter. their parents had s

great they put something out there that goes back to that moment i talked about earlier where you can beraroud of your country and proud to serve.hr >> mollyou, when we were reading through president trump said about joe biden revokingthis security clearance, he just made it clear still i to make crystal clear this as retaliation. we didn't get this in thwe thiet and i'm doing it right back to you. is that turnabout pay or, et cetera? i think from a practical pointl? it doesn't make too much of ao difference. i don't think he wouldas president biden up for advice where former president can stay up to date and perhaps a leadero would look back and say, "hey, you have dealt with these b issues, too and i need your insight." president wentt to make wouldn't do that anyway. to the other ramifications, it's a matter of trust and he doesn't trust these people and doesn't want them to have access and running a fullnnin governmentt clients. this is from his perception perhaps what is going on. joey made me think of something this weemarik a marine flown hoe with miles for military where people can

. >> california democratic congressman ami bera and you tell republican senator john curtis joined aion on u.s. competitiveness in artificial intelligence, focusing on national security and the race against chinese technology. >> my name is stephen overly.