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joining us is education secretary bill bennett. good morning. >> steve: i remember back in the day when you were education secretary for ronald reagan, reagan was talking about getting rid of the department. >> that is right, my confirmation was held up until ronald reagan said he would not get rid of it. that is her task, she can't dissolve the department, she can change the directon of a lot of the department. >> steve: during what we've heard so far, she worked at the sba, ran a wrestling league. part of sba stuff is applicable because so much of the department of education are student loans. >> you got it, i had a brief conversation wither had, she said i don't know education literature. i said, advantage one, linda, most of the literature is on the wrong track. common sense, teach kids how to read, write, count and thing and develop standards of right and wrong. half of prices are student loans, 1.7 trillion in student loans are owed. federal government, only federal government would do this, count those 1.7 million loans owed

trump policy advisor steven miller will be here in moments but first to bill bennett, former secretaryation under president reagan and a fox news contributor. good to have you here. the president has spoken out about what he sees as a war, really, against religion. against faith. and this was a pushback towards that by joe scarborough this morning for this initiative and faith office. watch this. >> if you are trying to bring the country together you can pass on the whole democrats are godless marxists because maybe the most intense of the base believe it but it's kind of hard to spread that message at the same time you are destroying all these other aid efforts. >> martha: we don't have any indication that it will be destroyed as part of the program. what joe scarborough was roof referring to at the prayer breakfast was that president trump said about the opposing side they oppose religion and god and have lost their confidence. what do you say about all of this? >> he is absolutely right and i think he had a moment there and butler. the president himself will admit he has not been a

is know people were getting clobbered you know before the provision i had my bipartisan bill with bob bob bennett, you know, where the insurance companies could discriminate against you if you had a preexisting condition. and so, as the book says, we won on five or six big issues where we didn't win on is we don't have to this day don't do enough to contain costs, particularly in the employer based system. mm do you have any regrets now? you look back on the biden administration, do you have any things you wish would happen differently, say with build back better and that course through congress? well, we, we, we, we had lost a couple of senators on some of the big economic and, you know and and in tax you know there would have been a bunch of things that we could have done differently in terms of making the case that this ride for billionaires with all kinds of accountants and and the like with something that directly contributed to middle class, you know, people being forced to pay that stuff. so yeah, there several things we do differently. do you think joe manchin had chutzpah as he took the

and that if we had another supplemental bill that came to the floor it would pass with republican votes because americans like senator tillis and i and senator bennett that went with us, we have been impressed by the ukrainians couraged by resilience and willingness to defend their freedoms and our freedoms. they've kept can their economy and their people going throughout this horrible ore, but by june ukraine is going to start running out of what they need. that's why we need to use the nearly $300 billion of russian seized assets to help ukraine rebuild. that's why i've called on secretary rubio to prioritize waivers unfreezing aid to ukraine. thousands of ukrainians have given their lives in the fought for a sovereign ukraine. they've been on the front lines for all of us defending democracy. to abandon them now would not only be a gift to putin, it would endanger our allies and the security of the united states. i yield the floor to my colleagues, senator tillis. >> i want to thank senator shaheen, long-term vision when she came to me and want today reconstitute thell senate-nato observer group. it could not have been a better time for us to pay