she fixed some of britain's greatest challenges and she showed, unfortunately, that after things getur government, they can be fixed by a conservative one. so things are not good right now for so many people up and down this country. cost of living continues to bite people's jobs. their wages aren't looking to grow because of the ni rise. and it may be that kimi can channel herinner it may be that kimi can channel her inner margaret thatcher. >> not going to the polls. joe phillips briefly. what did paddy ashdown think of margaret thatcher? >> i think he there was an admiration. i mean, you know, we didn't agree with her policies on everything. but i think the thing about her was you have to remember, you know, she was the first woman to be the leader of a party. she was a mother of two children. she was scorned and sneered at by the aristocracy in so many ways. and, you know, the power of that persistence. but she surrounded herself with people with huge brains. you know, people like keith joseph, people like michael heseltine. that helped. and i think that makes a huge difference.