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. >> many multi-millions of dollars in the arab gulf in presenting the idea of this gaza riviera, talking about the wonderful piece of real estate that gaza could be, if it could be developed by the real estate mols around the world, particularly in the united states. and you think. >> he got this idea from jared kushner? >> very well. could be. i mean, jared said this a number of years ago, a it's online. we can see it. >> gershon baskin, i appreciat your thoughts and your your just knledge the region. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and next here on ana cabrera reports ice, rain and sleet. the winter conditions 80 million americansre facing today. plus power grab. is there anything democrats can do to contain president trump and elon musk? we'll ask the top democrat on the house oversightommittee. the house oversightommittee. stay prilosec knows, for a fire... one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc. (v

riviera of the middle east in gaza. but stock about these developments with the former u.s. ambassador to co-weight and iraq. now president of the arab gulfute in washington. let's talk first about the current israel-gaza peace agreement and these clear tensions that have emerged in the last few days about the handover of hostages. what do you think happens to the next two stages of that peace agreement? we have hostage releases, but they have not gone smoothly. >> the first phase is proceeding in fits of starts. phases two and three have not been negotiated in all their detail. it is important to continue for the israelis and hamas to put pressure on both sides to keep the exchange of israeli prisoners for hostages or the bodies of hostages taken on october 7. i think the real test is going to come when all of the hostages or their remains are close to being released, and israel and hamas will have to decide if they want to proceed into phase two. >> let's talk about this meeting of arab leaders, what to do about the long-term reconstruction of gaza. a response perhaps to donald trump's plans, much criticized plans for the riviera of the

riviera of the middle east. joining me now is a retired u.s. diplomat and former u.s. ambassador to yemen. thank you for being with us on bbc news. this meeting between the gulf, egypt and jordan, strategizing ahead of a wider meeting next month. how will they combat that suggestion from president trump that the u.s. somehow controls gaza? >> a pleasure to be with you tonight. it is a very good question because this issue of how to manage the devastation, the destruction of gaza, how to move forward in reconstruction, rehabilitation for the people and for the infrastructure is extremely complicated. it's really beyond the capacity, i would say, of the arab states themselves to take on all the responsibilities to clear unexploded ordinance, clear the rubble and do all these things. this is on the that requires the full effort of the international community working together. but clearly for the arab states, the one element of donald trump's proposal that is absolutely unacceptable, unacceptable on a very broad range of reasons, is this idea of removing the population. that is a nonstarter for the arabs. it is a nonstarter really for the world. caitriona: that e

riviera of the middle east. the lawmakers were, however, optimistic that a meeting next week between the gulf states would result in a stronger alternative plan for gaza. >> i'll be. >> very blunt. >> my view is that the. >> trump plan. >> is a non plan. >> it's a hot mess. the possibility. >> of takeover by the. >> united states is a nonstarter. my talks with king abdullah convinced me that the. >> plan that. >> the arab. >> states will offer. >> to president trump provides. >> a realistic. prospect for normalizing relations. self-determination by. >> the. >> palestinians, regional. defense arrangements and security for israel. >> i think it. >> would be foolish to expect. >> israel to just leave. the day. >> after hamas. >> is destroyed. >> you have. >> legitimate security concerns that will require. >> some form of military presence. >> but let me tell you what would. >> be equally. >> implausible is. >> to occupy gaza permanently. you can't. >> do that. >> that will. >> result in israeli soldiers being killed every week. >> an interesting moment that we're watching here as we track the republican and democra

president surprised the world with this riviera of the middle east, rubio said that this was to stir. that this was to get a reaction from arab leaders in the gulf states. and now he's saying a full throated endorsement that this is the plan. what do you make of this shift that we're hearing that even if it is the strategy to stir that he's now, i guess, as the role of the secretary of state, speaking through the voice of the president or backing him up fully. >> they're doubling down and embracing the stirring. i've talked to trump officials before who said, sometimes trump says crazy things and is also willing to do the unthinkable. and we use that in negotiations with the opposition, whoever they may be. we tell them, look, we just don't know what he might do unless you do x, y, z. so i very much see that in this situation that they're pressing forward with. you know what, if you all don't come up with the solution that you own to keep the peace in gaza, perhaps volunteering your own emirati or qatari or saudi troops to keep the peace on the ground in gaza, then we're going to move forward with something like this, because israel can never ag

gulf arab nations would pay for it. joining us now is cnn military analyst, retired air force colonel cedric leighton, who is with us here. so this is interesting. these arab countries trying to counter trump's rivieralan, which i think a lot of people saw as just not realistic anyways. but what would the alternative be? >> so that really. >> depends on a lot of things, brianna. this is very interesting because there's a developer in the uae who is looking at this and saying that he can build prefab houses for about $2 billion. i think it was to house the palestinians in gaza while their permanent homes are being built. so that might be part of a the more concrete aspects of a resettlement or refurbishment plan for for gaza. the arab states, the gulf states, especially qatar, uae, saudi arabia have a long history of supporting efforts in gaza. and the egyptians, of course, as well. and they might may be coming up with a plan where they do something like this, where they keep the people in gaza, but rebuild kind of in a piecemeal type fashion, uh, maybe from north to south or from north to, you know, one way or the other that they could actually make that make that work. so that's one possible way th