while doing what they can to keep providing a central care to people and communities most in need. jo loven's outer 0, so inside story was bringing on guess now in westminster, in the us state of maryland. we have dave hoffman, he's a former assistant administrator for the us, a bureau of democracy, conflict and humanitarian assistance in trying my in thailand, cell lies or clink director of the shooting human rights organization and, and jo, based in me, in law and in washington, dc of de la, hey, bottle, how that? okay. a hold of african security on list and the see me advocate at refugees international welcome to well, if i could start with the law here, as is clear from that report, the us is the most generous country in the world. when it comes to foreign assistance, what does this freeze in us a mean for the rest of the world in broad terms of this for you has sent shock waves to many of the programs that the united states supports across the african continent. i think sometimes we forget that these programs they go on in the background. so a lot of the time we do not know like very poo