katie mcgrady show on siriusxm's the catholic channel. i want to thank you both for being here. doctor wynn, let's start first with you. and i'd like you to describe to us how serious you think these new developments are for the pope. >> i think these new developments. are very serious, jessica. >> because first. >> of all, we know that he is in critical condition. he is probably. >> in the intensive care unit receiving. >> round the clock. >> very intensive care. >> there are several things. >> that make the. >> situation particularly worrisome. >> the first is the fact. >> that he is older. he is in his late 80s. >> he has got chronic medical. >> conditions. >> including having had multiple bouts of pneumonia before, having had a part of his lung removed in the past. he also has bilateral pneumonia, as you said, pneumonia in both lobes. he has got multiple microbes they have said that are causing this may be viruses or bacteria or both that that may be contributing. the other thing too is he did take this turn for the worse. and so when