we talked to silicon valleyongressman ro khanna about this feud. and we'll take you to the red carpet in new orleans. the party is in full swing as we head into super bowl weekend. and keep in mind, the super bowl is in santa clara next year. good evening. this is nbc bay area news tonight i'm raj mathai. we will chat with the 49ers president as the countdown is on for next year's super bowl at levi's. also, we've got to use the bleep button you heard there for elon musk his new battle with silicon valley congressman ro khanna. those stories in just a few moments. we want to start with oureather like we've been doing all week. the latest storm hitting the bay area. a live look now in san francisco. we're still seeing some scattered showers and some flooding in parts of the bay area. at least two people have died, sadly in sonoma county, and a third person was rescued. are you in there? where are you at? in the back. pretty intense here. this is near point reyes on tuesday morning. all caught on a deputy's body cam. a woman hit a puddle, lost contro

and in fact, congressman khanna took to tiktok with a follow up message to musk. hey everyone, guess what? elon musk called me a dick today on twitter. and yes, we had to edit this one too. let me be clear if i have to be the biggest in congress, i will be. if it means standing up for the constitution. i think that tells us a lot about where we are in 2025. political analyst nolan higdon says in the new political gamesmanship, the medium is the message, and musk owns the medium, and he's able to tell a sitting congressperson not to be a d word in a public space. so this isn't just also a transfer of power. there's also an erosion of democracy here. all right. as we all blush, for the record, i asked congressman khanna, who represents silicon valley, if he and musk can move beyond all these insults. he says yes. he just wants musk to show accountability when it comes to his actions. we'll keep you posted, jessica. okay. thank you very much, scott. a new push to protect california communities from wildfire after those devastating blazes in los angeles. governor news

khanna: pell grant's. mr. schatz: pell grant's have provided support but everything needs to be examined. rep. khanna: title i funding. mr. schatz: we have a $36 billion debt. rep. khanna: it is a very small percentage of the funding. the defense department is a big part of the budget. i appreciate that you at least telling musk that he should not stop payments authorized by congress. i hope he will come in and explain that he won't do that, but i am concerned that you would want to cut programs like the idea act, possibly, that is helping kids with disabilities across america. mr. schatz: i didn't say that. part of the problem as everyone says this is only a small percentage of spending and then you have $36 trillion in debt. rep. khanna: because the big items are defense and the tax break for the wealthy. chair comer: the chair recognizes mr. higgins from louisiana. rep. higgins: a lot to cover and not a lot of time to do it in. i would like to enter for the record please a letter from the associated builder

ro khanna does that. the democratic congressman from silicon valley says you're violating the constitution. he said it on twitter. and this is the tweet that he got back. very simple. and, you know, kind of straight out of the locker room as the kids say, janelle, this escalated quickly. did representative conner. yeah. so what happened? did representative conner respond to that? so he did actually on tiktok. and this is a tiktok where he not only shows the tweet that musk directed at him, but he said, if you need me to be the biggest, and he uses that word in congress to support the constitution, i'll do it. so it is literally like, we're on the playground here and these two are going at it. and the interesting thing is khanna represents silicon valley, and he's met with musk more than a dozen times. and he says, we've had good relations. this is the guy, he says, that builds rocks and cars and creates a lot of jobs and a lot of wealth here in the bay area, in his district. but this back and forth is wha

khanna: pell grant's. mr. schatz: pell grant's have provided support but everything needs to be examined. rep. khanna: title i funding. mr. schatz: we have a $36 billion debt. rep. khanna: it is a very small percentage of the funding. the defense department is a big part of the budget. i appreciate that you at least telling musk that he should not stop payments authorized by congress. i hope he will come in and explain that he won't do that, but i am concerned that you would want to cut programs like the idea spending and then you have $36 trillion in debt. rep. khanna: because the big items are defense and the tax break for the wealthy. chair comer: the chair recognizes mr. higgins from louisiana. rep. higgins: a lot to cover and not a lot of time to do it in. i would like to enter for the record please a letter from the associated builder contractors of america. chair comer: without objection. rep. higgins: thank you. my brothers and sisters across the aisle, on both sides of the aisle, we have a historical

representative khanna says the oversight committees vote was taken without notice.eral others, he says, also did not make it in time. the vote failed, and not without some heated discussion. >> yes, let's have order in this country. you're out of order. you know you're out of order. you know the rules of this committee. there's been a motion. mr. elon musk is out of order, and he's. >> out of order. >> representative khanna has accused musk of violating the u.s. constitution. musk responded with a crude insult, as the two argued on social media. >> the newest member of president trump's cabinet was sworn in today. pam bondi is now the u.s. attorney general. >> i will restore integrity to the justice department, and i will fight violent crime throughout this country and throughout this world, and make america safe again. >> with the administration focused on changing the justice department, bondi is already outlining her day one objectives. they include investigating dea programs in schools that receive federal funds and pausing federal grants to sanctuary cities. >>

malik abdul and congressman ro khanna. americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other, but here they do. good evening. i'm abby phillip in new york. let's get right to what america is talking about. the acceptance of racism. tonight, a doge staffer who resigned after racist posts surfaced about him is getting his job back. elon musk wanted to crowdsource the decision, and one of the respondents leaping to the employee's defense was the vice president of the united states, jd vance. among other things, said in a social media post that this shouldn't ruin a kid's life. first of all, that kid is 25 years old. secondly, he recently made those posts as recently as december and third. he is now tasked with accessing sensitive information about americans without oversight. even the president echoed vance's sentiment. >> one of the doge engineers was fired for some inappropriate posts. the vice president says bring him back. what do you say? >> well, i don't know about the particular thing, but if the vice pres

khanna, for five minutes. mr. khanna: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, nbc news is reporting that president trump plans to eliminate the department of education with an executive order. this is an assault on every young american who went to public school like me. this is an assault on every american family who has someone who is depends abled -- disabled and needs the i.d. -- idea program to provide education. this is an assault on every neighborhood in america that has a public school, that gets title 1 funding. this is an assault on every child who gets school lunches in america. this is an assault on our public teachers across this country. this is an assault on every american who has gotten any federal financial aid to go to vocational school or to go to public college or to get an education like i did. the president does not have the constitutional authority to do this. it is cruelty. it is taking away the bedrock of education in this country. thomas jefferson said, you can't have a democracy without an educated citizenry. what built americ

cupp and jamal simmons, this back and forth that was caused by the 25 year old ro khanna was tweeting at jd vance today when he was saying, essentially give this kid some grace. he said, i disagree with his views, obviously, but he said we shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people because of stupid social media activity, and it should ruin his life. i say bring him back if he's a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that ro khanna responded and said, are you going to tell him to apologize for saying, quote, normalize indian hate before this rehire? just asking for the sake of both of our kids. >> yeah, that. >> was a really. >> um. >> interesting exchange. >> between ro khanna, who. >> is. >> indian, and. >> jd. >> vance, who married. >> an indian. they both. >> have indian. >> children. >> and this guy was. specifically targeting. >> targeting indian. >> indians with. >> his. >> racist tweets. >> so that was. >> really interesting. but the dig. >> in by. >> jd vance. >> and the dig in by elon musk. >> and. >> trump is seeming to. reward the cruelty. i

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joining me now is congressman ro khanna of california.ommittee who did try to subpoena, which did try to subpoena elon musk last week. i have to start with this this exchange. and we did want you to just respond to it because there is something, frankly, emasculating about another man defending your own wife and children more than you do. and jd vance, you know, sort of committed that kind of emasculating act by being more vigorous in defending marco vÉlez than he was about defending vance. i found it weird. i just want to know what you thought of it. >> well, i. >> thought his. >> outburst was so undignified. all i said is this 25. year old. who has. >> said to normalize. >> indian hate. imagine if he had said normalize white hate. what jd vance reaction would have been? but he says normalize indian hate. he says repeal. >> the. >> civil rights act. meaning that people who are going to a restaurant now, the restaurant can have black people and indian people sit separately from white people. and all i said is ask him to retract that and a

representative khanna has accused moscow of violating the u.s. constitution recently. forth on social media, and if you're getting your summer travel plans in order, you're going to have to wait to visit yosemite, at least on weekends. the los angeles times reports park officials need to get the revamped reservation system approved by the trump administration. for now, people are unable to book visits from april through october. the popular yosemite attraction firefall, is not affected. it happens this month. reservations are needed for people who want to go on weekends and holidays. >> and we have a traffic alert for you this morning. the metering lights are on at the bay bridge toll plaza. they just turned on about 536 this morning just a few minutes ago. right now you can see it's not too busy out there just yet. we're not seeing any delays across the span and you won't have any issues driving into the city. also, we're not seeing any issues with rain just yet, but if you're leaving a little bit later this morning about 7:00, we are expecting some rain. so keep that

congressman ro khanna live on capitol hill. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> coming up, the fbi says it's discovered thousands of documents related to the assassination of president john f kennedy. this after decades and decades of insisting we'd seen most, if not all of it. that story next. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? saturday at nine on cnn. >> love love will keep us together. >> now for something you can both agree on a sleep number bed is perfect for couples. the climate 360 smart bed is the only bed that cools and warms on each side. and all our smart beds adjust the firmness for each of you. let's agree to agree on better sleep and now save 50% on the new sleep number. limited edition smart bed plus free home delivery and 0% interest for 48 months. shop now. >> ontario, canada your third largest trading partner and number one export destination for 17 states. our economic partnership keeps millions of americans working. we're here right by your side. >> i am tony hawk, and like many of y

khanna. mr. khanna: mr. speaker, 88 years ago, president franklin roosevelt stood before the american people in philadelphia and warned of an economic aristocracy that sought not just to dominate our markets, but our democracy. he spoke of those who amassed great wealth and then used that wealth to shape the laws of our nation and serve their own world view rather than the public good. and he pledged that the government must serve the people, not the privileged few. ... that same challenge exists today. now it is billionaires themselves taking over our government. they bankroll the campaigns, install their loyalists, and want to control government so they can make the rules. they push for deep cuts to public education, including eliminating funding for decent schools in working class neighborhoods. to fund massive tax breaks for the investor class that we cannot afford. they fight to deregulate social media platforms to grow the market value of companies in my district, just as the railroad barons of the pas

and as you mentioned, a lot of some businesses in downtown san jose also closed khanna and also tostadas restaurant over in midtown san jose. also in a show of solidarity with the rest of the pro-immigrant community, a construction site that i visited. also, one of the workers said several of his coworkers also did not show up as part of this demonstration. and so just across the nation, people declined to show up for work or to go to school. yeah, we could be. it could be felt in a lot of support for this day of action. what about we know people stayed at home. people learned about their backgrounds, but some just showed up at city hall. they took other action today. yeah. students from lincoln high school in san jose, they walked out of school, and they say that they were warned by administration that there would be some repercussions for that. but they marched into the 18th floor lobby of san jose city hall. that's where all the council members and the mayor's offices are. they demanded to see the mayor. the mayor was tied up in back to back to back meetings, and so he was not able to

representatives zoe lofgren, ro khanna and sam liccardo, representing district 16, 17 and 18, held anews conference in san jose's mexican heritage plaza. they say the flurry of orders coming out of the white house are alarming, harmful and some of them are unconstitutional. santa clara county executive james r williams says it's important for residents to understand what's at stake. we heavily depend on federal resources, in particular for our hospital system. we get over 2.9 billion a year just for our health care services, directly or indirectly from the federal government. and what that means is that is how we are able to operate our hospitals, including our level one trauma center and pediatric trauma center. williams went on to stress that county services will remain open. nothing is changing right now, but many programs and services are in jeopardy because of the orders. another recall election is brewing in the bay area. dozens of people gathered in san francisco for a kickoff event of the recall and guardian movement back in december. a group of residents filed a recall petit

regarding the americas in pursuant khanna, it is -- puntacana, it is important to show the social economic development of our people marked by democracy, freedom, and the respect for the fundamental values that unite us. one of the key issues. in our conversation was also the development of rare earths, a resource which has great potential for the dominican republic. in this case, there are new opportunities for growth and investment and would make us more competitive in international markets. our country continues to become consolidated as a place for tourism, par excellence with a favorable business climate and important modernization in . spite of the challenges we face and are going forth to a equal dominican republic. secretary rubio strengthens the relationship of mutual respect and cooperation among our countries and we're committed to continue working together in order to promote peace, well-being and progress in hopes of a shared future of prosperity and stability in our region. thank you, secretary rubio, for your visit and ongoing commitment and favorable opinion of the dominica

democratic congressman khanna says he doesn't agree with musk's approach. >> reporter: show where the wasteful spending is an force and up or down vote. don't make that decision unilaterally. that in my view violates the constitution. >> reporter: doge says they have cut 200 contracts across 35 agencies saving $250 million. the white house has largely praised doge's actions. a federal judge did not immediate the block doge from accessing the labor department system. unions who sued have not provided proof of legal injury. mike:the white house praising cost-cutting efforts as democrats question his heavy influence. julie manchester on why this is all headed. >> reporter: good morning. mike:what is your assessment of elon musk's influence in the first few months of the administration? >> reporter: it is remarkable to see the amount of influence elon musk has. not necessarily a surprise. we saw that during the campaign, donald trump telegraphed that elon musk would be part of the administration. we know elon musk campaigned with donald trump during the transition, trump would support elo

. >> it's going to wait to read to read this, for we have ro khanna coming on a little bit later, but robert thomson, just saying. in terms of business conditions in the united states, we're seeing a tangible increase in business confidence here in the us, the temporary turmoil of transactional tariffs aside, there's a confluence of economic optimism and cultural awakening with the yoke of woke having been lifted. and we believe that these trends should lead to less gratuitous regulation and greater capital formation. i mean, do you see it? could could it be that we're missing out on the big picture and that there could be some positive, i don't know, animal spirits? >> yeah. i don't really know how to define or model animal spirits, but what i can tell you is for the past few years and honestly, post covid, we've had a little bit of religion instilled in c-suites because we've really focused on free cash flow generation, profitable growth. so now we're getting the tailwind of all of that a few years later, where companies have a lot of financial flexibility. as you get further away f

. >> joining me california congresswoman ro khanna good to see you.? >> to what you just heard. >> well -- it is pretty simply president actually was able to, cut, bill clinton cut 351,000 employees workforce grew 2% donald trump first term congress passed restructuring act we cooperated to reduce unnecessary bureaucracy, all my colleagues are saying is you have to work with congress, to make lasting constitutional change. maria: did it work since bill clinton was in office one one-half million dollars was given last year for advancing dei in serbia workplace two million grant to fund sex changes in guatemala 7.9 billion we've gone through this all morning long do you agree usaid was paying out to? >> of course they are projects i disagree with i acknowledge that there's wasteful spending two points if you want waste federal budget you know numbers don't start withing a .1% start with federal defense budget 56%, with medicare advantage fraud a huge part of the budget. maria: i think that is where he is going now -- president trump said is go being to

if it wasn't for ro khanna missing the vote.have had -- by the way it would have been a fantastic broadcast. but they would have subpoenaed him. for doing his job. >> lawrence: they didn't just do that they stormed into the speaker's yesterday they wanted to question the treasury secretary. this is radical nonsense. and they keep acting as if elon musk is the decision maker. he is the investigator. he just brings the material to the public, to the president and then the president makes a decision and says okay. cut that that shouldn't be there. but it's a total transparent process. >> ainsley: let's scroll through some of the wasteful spending of what we are giving to other countries, it's millions and millions and millions of dollars. >> lawrence: 74 million to syrian and diplomatic political opponent. >> brian: dei musical in ireland, vietnam. egyptian tourism 6 million bucks. >> ainsley: condoms to the taliban. >> brian: taliban needs condoms. can't anyone afford their condoms change for a dollar go to the restaurant. >> ains

ve hired a representative ro khanna has called for a full fbi investigation, and his parents accusedice of withholding records and are asking a judge to step in. the san francisco police department has said it's an open case. happening now, a highly contagious and potentially deadly virus is spreading among dogs in san francisco's tenderloin. all of that is according to our media partners at the sf standard. parvovirus. parvovirus can cause seizures, dehydration, and rapid weight loss in dogs. cases in the tenderloin have increased dramatically in the last two years. it is unknown how many of the cases are linked to the city's unhoused population. city officials tell the standard access to vets is difficult and expensive for most dog owners in underserved neighborhoods in the east bay. layoffs are coming to oakland city workers, a consequence of the city's devastating financial crisis. that's according to a memo from the city administrator that was obtained by the east bay times. the first two city departments to see staffing cuts are public works, which will have 26 roles cut. then

joining us now, democratic congressman ro khanna, who represents silicon valley in california. he's known elon musk for nearly 15 years and serves on the house oversight committee. welcome, congressman. >> congressman, thank you for being here. so nbc news has reported that secrecy is becoming a defining trait of elon musk's doge. more than two weeks after donald trump signed a 660 word word executive order that established those, confusion about it persists. three federal employees said that a lack of transparency about doge exists at their agency. another current employee who has been handling doge requests says musk's team is zeroing in on data. it is very focused on data. they want the data. why do you think they want the data or the data? >> well, they want to unilaterally make decisions to stop payments that. >> they think. >> are wrong. >> and here's. >> the thing. >> i was pretty reasonable. >> about this. >> when elon first. was appointed to be the. >> head of doge. >> i said if. >> he has ideas for cuts in the pentagon budget, he. >> should come to congress. in fact,

representative ro khanna has called for a full fbi investigation.ur partners at the bay area news group report the parents accused san francisco police of withholding records and are asking a judge to now step in. the sfpd has said it's an open case. happening now, a highly contagious and potentially deadly virus is spreading among dogs in san francisco's tenderloin district. that's according to our media partners at the san francisco standard. parvovirus can cause seizures, dehydration, and rapid weight loss in dogs. cases in the tenderloin have increased dramatically in the last two years. it's unknown how many of these cases are linked to the city's unhoused population, but city officials do say the standard access to vets is difficult and expensive for most dog owners in these underserved neighborhoods in the east bay. now, layoffs are coming to oakland. a consequence of the city's devastating financial crisis. that's according to a new memo from the city administrator obtained by the east bay times. the first two city departments to see staffin

representative ro khanna has called for a full fbi investigation.tners at the bay area news group report the parents accused san francisco police of withholding records and are asking a judge to now step in. sfpd has said it's an open case. happening now. a highly contagious and potentially deadly virus is spreading among dogs in san francisco's tenderloin. that's according to our media partners at the san francisco standard. parvovirus can cause seizures, dehydration, and rapid weight loss in dogs. cases in the tenderloin have increased dramatically in the last two years. now, it's unknown how many of these cases are linked to the city's unhoused population, but city officials tell the standard access to vets is difficult and expensive for most dog owners in underserved neighborhoods in the east bay. layoffs are coming to the city of oakland. a consequence of the city's devastating financial crisis. that's according to a new memo from the city administrator. the first two city departments to see staffing cuts are public works, which will cut 26 rol

we're going to talk with congressman ro khanna after j.d. vance attacked him for standing up to racism, and the commissioner and chair of the federal elections commission, ellen weintraub, is going to be at the table. she says trump is trying to illegally fire her. also, be sure to follow us on social media at the weekend. msnbc velshi continues our coverage. good morning ali. >> good morning. thank you again for a great show this morning. i mean, i know it was just two hours, but you had about nine hours of content in there and you helped make sense of it all. so i'm going to try and i'm going to try and emulate you for the next couple of hours, but have yourselves a great rest of your day. >> all right. take care. >> all right. velshi starts now. hey. good morning. it's saturday, february the 8th. it's day 19 of donald trump's second term, and efforts are intensifying to fulfill the president's promise to dismantle the so-called deep state across all levels of government. many republican lawmakers have celebrated the administration's actio

. >> you know, ro khanna. >> who.an. >> indian-american whose. >> success i very much celebrate, you know, he said, well, the american. people view elon musk as being more. >> popular and. cooler because he. >> launches rockets into space. >> than typical politicians. >> i'm sorry, that is. >> not getting. >> the memo. >> we need to make elon musk an. >> issue to the. american people. >> we need to make him. unpopular to the american people. >> strategically, if you. >> ask kevin. >> mccarthy why donald trump got elected. >> president in. >> 2016, he. >> has a simple answer. hillary clinton was. >> at 65%. we took her down to 40%. >> mitch mcconnell. when barack obama. >> was at 65%, had a specific strategy to take him down to 45%. hence the tea party wave. that is the way republicans work. and that is the way we as democrats have to work. and just think about this. george soros, who is a naturalized u.s. >> citizen like. >> myself, like. >> elon musk, who is a multi-billionaire. >> like elon musk, unlike myself. >> h

we're going to talk with congressman ro khanna after j.d., ellen weintraub, is going to be at the table. she says trump is trying to illegally fire her. also, be sure to follow us on social media at the weekend. msnbc velshi continues our coverage. good morning ali. >> good morning. thank you again for a great show this morning. i mean, i know it was just two hours, but you had about nine hours of content in there and you helped make sense of it all. so i'm going to try and i'm going to try and emulate you for the next couple of hours, but have yourselves a great rest of your day. >> all right. take care. >> all right. velshi starts now.

we had ro khanna on the broadcast. couple of weeks ago, he effectively said that. and i don't want to put words in his mouth. but the conversation you're having right now about tiktok is a lie. that's what he basically said. he basically said that that, that, that he's seen the intelligence and that it is a lie that there's with the with to the extent that tiktok is actually taking that information, giving it to the chinese government or the chinese government is using tiktok in some kind of nefarious way today, that's not to say that prospectively, in the future it couldn't. and that's a clearly a possibility. and if we want to say that that's a threat, that that will always be a threat, but that the idea that that the american public has been told repeatedly that tiktok is doing something nefarious in this moment is not true. what do you say to that? >> listen, i didn't. >> i didn't see. >> roe's comments. >> but i'll tell. >> you, in both. serving on the intelligence committee. >> and the. >> fact that you saw an ov

khanna of california, ms. sherrill of new jersey, mr. torres of new york, ms. brown of ohio, mr. stanton of arizona, mr. tokuda of hawaii. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house a message. the clerk: to the congress of the united states, section 202-d of the national emergency act 15 united states code 1522-d provides for the automatic determination of a national emergency unless prior to the anniversary of the declaration the president publishes in the federal record and transmits to the congress the notice stating the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date. in accordance with this provision, i sent to the federal register for publication the enclosed notice stating the national emergency with respect to the situation and situation in burma declared in 14014 of february 10 is to continue beyond february 10, 2025 and the situation in burma and particularly the february coupe over which they overthrew the government of burma and unjustly and detained government leaders, politicians, human rights defenders, journalists and religion leaders,

congressman ro khanna asked me that question, and my answer was, i think they are testing the limits, obviously they cannot do anything that is not within the constitutional boundaries of what they could do inside this group inside of the white house. host: there was quite a bit of back-and-forth in that hearing as well as elsewhere. how much congress can do. as this process is ongoing. as you mentioned, this is very early in the process appeared what role do you think congress should be playing now in working with the d.o.g.e. group? guest: well, if congress had been doing their job, in our view, they would not need d.o.g.e. i don't say that facetiously. local governments have to balance their budgets. families have to balance their budgets. federal government has not done that and is not required to do that. whatever they're doing is drawing more attention to the problem inside of washington. to trillion dollar annual deficit, i talk about that often. of course that's what we care about. it impacts our children and grandchildren. it has an impact now because it is so large. if we ha

congressman ro khanna asked me that question, and my answer was, i think they are testing the limits, obviously they cannot do anything that is not within the constitutional boundaries of what they could do inside this group inside of the white house. host: there was quite a bit of back-and-forth in that hearing as well as elsewhere. how much congress can do. as this process is ongoing. as you mentioned, this is very early in the process appeared what role do you think congress should be playing now in working with the d.o.g.e. group? guest: well, if congress had been doing their job, in our view, they would not need d.o.g.e. i don't say that facetiously. local governments have to balance their budgets. families have to balance their budgets. federal government has not done that and is not required to do that. whatever they're doing is drawing more attention to the problem inside of washington. to trillion dollar annual deficit, i talk about that often. of course that's what we care about. it impacts our children and grandchildren. it has an impact now because it is so large. if we ha