pizzuro was saying. >> senator klobachar: thank you. >> chairman grassley: senator klobachar, thank you>> thank you, chairman grassley. mr. pizzuro, i will start with you. you know the trends of what we are facing online, probably as well as anybody, is that fair to say? >> i would say so. >> senator hawley: would you say it is more of it or less of it? >> mr. pizzuro: hundreds or thousands percent more. >> senator hawley: in 2023, there were 104 million images in videos of suspected child abused materials uploaded onto the internet compared to 450,000 in 2004. 450,000 to 104 million in the last four years in which we have data. here is another statistic. the number of reports of child exploitation materials went from 1 million in 2014 to 36.2 million in 2023. so, in other words, it is an enormous explosion. it is absolutely everywhere. let me ask you some of the remedies about this. if you are a parent and i am a parent of three young little kids, if you are a parent of a victim of child sexual abuse material, your child's images have been used and they have been exploited. you have co