the of the of the industry over the past half century, you and steve jobs and michael dell and marc andreessen and mark zuckerberg. org and you know, you can i guess larry ellison was a little bit older when he started but you know, like at any moment in time, i feel like there was a very clear person, you know, in each decade who really at the at the apex, at the forefront of the sector and who is who is in their twenties and today and, you know, skills amazing company but it just it's somehow it seems harder and again even if you know alex wonderful but it's harder to kind of go further down that list. is there a phenomenon here? do you think there's something to explain or. well, the virgin territory win the micro processor. the miracle of the microprocessor and the optic fiber and the disk storage and cheap memory chips, all that stuff is changing. what we can do with computing the existing companies don't get it. i mean, ibm does too. the ibm pc. that's a long story, but they essentially stick to the what computing was for when the computers were still very expensive. and they in particul