welcome back, katharine birbalsingh, who's the head mistress of the michaela community school in wembleye studio. lovely to see you, catherine. if you don't mind me calling you that rather than miss birbalsingh, which you must hear a lot at school. yes. now , a lot at school. yes. now, you've been in a war of words, so to speak, with bridget phillipson. yes. you had a meeting with the education secretary. you didn't find it particularly satisfactory. you then wrote an open letter, which was published in the spectator, detailing why you don't think that labour's legislation, its plans to reform schooling in the uk, is fit for purpose. yeah, you have then been briefed against and i'm just going to put some, let's call it labour source briefing against you to you and you can respond about this now infamous meeting. it was apparently an appalling meeting. you were twice told that you had to contain yourself. your conduct was apparently utterly disgraceful. she had a tantrum, basically. what's your response to that? >> well, that's just not true. i did interrupt her, but it was me and my depu

. >> michaela community school. >> michaela community school. >> wow! >> wow! >> fantastic!ntastic! >> hello and welcome along to the first ever patrick christys tonight live audience show. thank you very much for everybody who's turned up. but firstly, just to get us all warmed up, i want a bit of audience participation. what do you think of the bbc? >> ooh. >> ooh. let's >> ooh. let's not >> ooh. let's not start >> ooh. let's not start there. >> ooh. let's not start there. >> oh, no. okay. all right. well, hey, look, people think that they might be a pro—hamas propaganda channel just because of stuff like this. >> good morning. you're all right. have you ever wondered what you'd do if your world was destroyed? >> so the beeb used a child. narrator. in gaza. and it turned out that his dad was a minister for hamas. you know , this hamas. for hamas. you know, this hamas. >> would be. to be here for us to merchan. >> yeah. shocking stuff, isn't it? yeah. and now one of our immigration lawyers wants us to take gazan refugees. now, these are the same people cheering that you jus

. >> michaela community school. >> michaela community school. >> wow! >> wow! >> fantastic!fantastic! >> hello and welcome along to the first ever patrick christys tonight live audience show. thank you very much for everybody who's turned up. but firstly, just to get us all warmed up, i want a bit of audience participation. what do you think of the bbc.7 >> you think of the bbc? >> ooh. >> ooh. let's >> ooh. let's not >> ooh. let's not start >> ooh. let's not start there. >> ooh. let's not start there. >> oh, no. okay. all right. well, hey, look, people think that they might be a pro—hamas propaganda channel just because of stuff like this. >> good morning. you're all right. have you ever wondered what you'd do if your world was destroyed? >> so the beeb used a child. narrator. in gaza. and it turned out that his dad was a minister for hamas. you know , this hamas. for hamas. you know, this hamas. >> would be. to be here for us to merchan. >> yeah. shocking stuff, isn't it? yeah. and now one of our immigration lawyers wants us to take gazan refugees. now, these are the same

. >> michaela community school. >> michaela community school. >> thank you katie.ow this is the moment for us all to step up. well, those are the words of sir keir starmer as he declares he is ready and willing to put british boots on the ground in ukraine to enforce any peace deal with vladimir putin. well, this comes as the prime minister earlier today, as you can see on your screen, touched down in paris for an emergency summit alongside european leaders amid fears that the united states are sidelining allies on the continent as it presses for a dealin continent as it presses for a deal in ukraine. in fact, marco rubio, donald trump's secretary of state, has arrived in saudi arabia for a sit down with the russian diplomats to begin the next stage of peace talks. and that's despite ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy vowing to reject any deal where ukraine is not represented. well, join me now to discuss. this is sir gerald howarth, the former conservative defence minister, sir sir gerald howarth. welcome to the show. let me put this to you. the nofion let me

. >> michaela community school. >> michaela community school. >> thank you katie.ow this is the moment for us all to step up. well, those are the words of sir keir starmer as he declares he is ready and willing to put british boots on the ground in ukraine to enforce any peace deal with vladimir putin. well, this comes as the prime minister earlier today, as you can see on your screen, touched down in paris for an emergency summit alongside european leaders amid fears that the united states are sidelining allies on the continent as it presses for a dealin continent as it presses for a deal in ukraine. in fact, marco rubio, donald trump's secretary of state, has arrived in saudi arabia for a sit down with the russian diplomats to begin the next stage of peace talks. and that's despite ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy vowing to reject any deal where ukraine is not represented. well, join me now to discuss. this is sir gerald howarth, the former conservative defence minister, sir sir gerald howarth. welcome to the show. let me put this to you. the nofion let me