i don't know that we come out of the munich security council meetings with a bipartisan agreement. but we come out with a better understanding. and people all over the world want to hear but the leaders of the national security and foreign affairs committees, both parties, feel. >> to ask you directly, what is your perspective on how this war should end both in terms of the process and the substance -- sen. wicker: how it should've ended -- >> but no, now. sen. wicker: 2 -- years ago, the west including the u.s. and canada should have given ukraine everything they asked for. and i will tell you that russia is taking 40,000 casualties a month. i don't know how long they can stay on this. the us -- this idea that ukraine is barely hanging on is not exactly correct. >> we should not rush towards any kind of negotiated peace deal, you think? sen. wicker: i think it would be wonderful if the fighting would stop. it would have been wonderful if the killing and fighting in world war ii could have stopped 2-3 years earlier and regrettably it didn't. but the allies at that point were more i

to stop the violence will be discussed saturday at both the african union summits and the munich security council that comes off there were ones in back in $23.00 fighters into it because of the capital of self keeping the problems . catherine story has been following developments from 10 years. kevin nairobi, she spoke to us on the fine, susan speaking to uh, commanders of m, 23. 0, who are on ground. and they say now they are in the process of just to securing the area more picking up that area. we know that the army was trying to protect the cobble, i left the area a while back. we also know that says the government official to a call who also left. now, earlier you mentioned um m 22 and its all lied to the airport. the main airport in cowboy movies. uh, that's about to 35 uh 30 kilometers away from will cover. uh that airport has a military base. um as well, again, um the military that was controlling the airport who left without a fight. now we understand in the look for the last 3 weeks or so that because some of the soldiers are a bit disappointed about what has been happening, particularl

that's how the chairman of the munich security council or conference right to describe the new us administration's approach towards the continent of this vash. it was in a certain sense, european nightmare. but at the same time, it was also a very enlightening conference because we learned from the speech of the us, vice president, that this america under trump, is living on another planet pizza. if they didn't come. now that the action was likely triggered by the us, the speech in which he took to the podium to tell the repeating that they've got the power. it is all wrong. dirty vans was met with near silence and shocked looks for the conference. german wiley was too much for him to take to this order is easy to disrupt. it's easy to destroy, but it's much harder to rebuild. so let us stick to these values, let us not reinventing but focus on strengthening their consistent application. let me conclude and this becomes difficult. the very, yeah, well, we're joined by a panel of guests to discuss the biggest moments from unique as well as how the west is having to learn the meaning of compromise i

chief, this is my cruise to the form of time that is from the netherlands, who was a hit, the munich security council. look, you new to european allies don't besides that you know to the table come up with new i did is. however, he says that while you are is willing to step up, he didn't seem to have any details about what you could do in regards to that. then we have to complete flip side here in paris. this is the gentleman chancellor. oh, look, schultz who essentially stormed out to that meeting with his counterpart saying, no, this is not right. we're not going to just send troops to ukraine. this is fairly screwed on. it is completely premature. i'm completely the wrong time to have this discussion now and vinnish. i'm even a little irritated by these debates. just have to say, people are talking here about possible variance of outcomes over the heads of ukraine is just about the outcome of peace tools that have not taken place with which ukraine has not said yes, because that is not set at the table. this is highly inappropriate to put it bluntly and honestly, we don't even know what the outcom

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vance said, by the way, seemed to be his comments on the munich security council, all bets are off, anythinge secretary was clear the next day that actually all options are on the table. no matter what he said the day before, all options are on the table. the second thing i would say is, n.a.t.o. membership for ukraine is the gold standard. it's going to be hard. we've always said it's going to be difficult. going to take some time and why president zelenskyy is after it, it's the gold standard and exists right now. the other thing that the secretary hegseth said was that discussions of ukraine and n.a.t.o. are not part of the negotiation with the russians. correct. you don't talk with the russians about them joining n.a.t.o. that's an issue not for the russians, it's an issue for the ukrainians and n.a.t.o. >> n.a.t.o. members. >> that's right, don't talk with them about that. the last thing i would say is this story that the russians invaded ukraine because they were getting too close to n.a.t.o., just false, just false. we know why putin invaded ukraine, he wants to dominate ukraine, he w

vice president vowing to get european leaders both here in paris and when he goes on to the munich security council to look much clearer, more clearly and urgently on how to bring the war in ukraine to an end. jim. >> they were taking their family photo there just now. they love the family photos at these at these events. melissa, i'm curious, given deep advances here, is there concern in the room as you've been there that that the u.s. that the west is losing ground in the a.i. competition, the battle with china? >> i think one of the lessons of what we've seen from deep tech is that american dominance is challenged, and that's something europeans are hoping to see go further as well. we've been speaking to the ceo of mishal, the european startup that is hoping to challenge the chinese and american giants at a time when people said it simply couldn't be done. but that has been one of the key lessons, of course, is that a.i. can be done cheaper and faster elsewhere than it has been so far, and that's at once a disruptor. but of course, also reason for investors and american entrepreneurs to continu

and then we had the us vice president j d phones here in munich out the security council laying into your room for it to start as in europe. we know he's also incredibly critical of you, craig, but he basically said you replace really use a coming back from its fundamental values of things like freedom of speech. and he said that the us was that it's defending that. we also know that sometimes ski and von submit on the sidelines become friends. think clearly that is a meeting that didn't go the way. so let's be wanted because you heard that incredibly critical now trying to pay, but towards you were trying to price would be say that russia is going to use the us as a pop it. but we're going to have a situation where essentially the world is going to be called up again between the us and russia. i mean, these are very, very big. a dispute with us clayton's by blow to me is a lead. stay for that would be great, but essentially saying now that anyone who speaks to russia is that freight and is which really you applauded with lensky. also saying that you need that. oh no army . maybe eve

when we met in unit for the munich security council the four-star head of africa, he said one of then do to buttress our relationships with our friends in coastal africa would be to provide support for them to detect criminal fishing operations to be able to identify who's doing the criminal fishing operations and possibly to enforce against those criminal fishing se operations. .... icant tariff ways -- when it is pure piracy, it will take some doing to trace it back to the nominal home of the vessel, whereas china boom with china you know that i would ask you to work with particular senator sold in and myself who have been working this issue and we hopefully want to increase the penalty around the pirate fishing fleet and to the extent this will become a part of our tariff policy it would be i think very helpful and would protect american fisheries against illegal and brutal foreign competition and with the side benefit that the rapacious behavior happening in our seas is causing massive, massive environmental damage and the fish are down 90% from their previous numbers because the

this is part of what the munich security council agree.wn notes and preparatory detail they say they have to come up with an ironclad security guarantee that donald trump has said and pete hegseth has said does not include the u.s. on the front line. they have to agree together. in terms of the energy side, that is what the german election is considering as well. we have the political party, the afd, that is much more pro-putin than the other parties. they are willing to step away from nato and they would like to have that energy flowing again to make a industry more competitive. that on the flipside you have other parties that do not trust the russians and belief we have to build europe going forward. the 5% gdp spending that can really work on the industrial engine of europe, building these arms. germany creates things, norway creates things. norway is not part of the eu. the u.k. is not part of the eu. they have to pull themselves together. when we see trump's tactics he is being very tough on his allies and asking them to step up versu

in the background with secretary scott bessent going just ahead of these meetings at the munich security councilorts that would help align some of the economic incentives with what ukraine has on the ground which are significant resources. annmarie: i am glad you brought that up. you were prescient on this issue. you worked on a magazine article about this, you said how trump should be talking to ukraine specifically about critical minerals and how it could be one huge pillar they could use to get a peace agreement. how could you see the contours of a critical minerals deal between the u.s. and ukraine working out? heidi: at this point you have to bring it out to a larger geopolitical context. the geology these days, i.e. who has access to some of the critical minerals and rare earth is entirely geopolitical. you have borders between ukraine and russia that actually cut through some of the richest rare earth mining grounds. the production capacity as well. where those lines are drawn actually matters. even in ukraine proper you have come within ukraine's territory, some of the largest titanium r

vance, going to munich to that security council, which is where over the last three years, we have seen. officials go to stand for ukraine, to insist that the western world led by the united states would defend ukraine against russian aggression. vance gave a major speech there. he did not even mention the russian invasion of ukraine, and he said that the biggest threat to stability in the region is not russia. it's not china. it's actually european governments who are sidelining right-wing movements in their countries. so a dramatic change, and this meeting that we're going to see next week in saudi arabia, the beginning perhaps of a peace process. it includes the americans. it includes the russians. it's hosted by the saudis, but whit, no inclusion from anybody from the ukraine side. >> whit: we heard zelenskyy not too thrilled about that part of it. jon karl for us as always, we appreciate it. stay tuned to "this week." jon speaks with republican senator markwayne mullin, to discuss trump's push to end the war in ukraine, and how trump's allies are reshaping the federal government. p

when we met in munich for the security council with four star head of africom, he said one of the most important things we could do to buttress relationships with coastal africa would be to provide support for them to detect criminal fishing operations, to identify who is doing the criminal fishing and in force against those operations. our fisheries are having unfair competition from pirate fleets and the chinese fleet offshore and it strikes me they are significant tariff ways -- when it is pure piracy, it will take some doing to trace it back to the nominal home of the vessel, whereas china boom, you know. i would ask you to work with senator sullivan and myself who have been working hard on this issue. we have a bill we hope will pass this year to increase penalties and transparency around the piracy fleet, slave fleet if you will, and to the extent this could become a part of tariff policy, it would be helpful and would protect american fisheries against illegal and brutal foreign competition, with the side benefit that the rapacious behavior happening in our seas is causing massi

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munich security conference. joining me now, nbc news national security correspondent courtney qb, who is in munich covering that conference, and former cia officer marc polymeropoulos. he's a nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic council you, what can you tell us about the attack and what else do we know about the suspect? >> ali, that white car was just towed away only moments ago. it's been sitting here all day since the driver plowed that small white mini cooper into a crowd of pedestrians right at the intersection behind me. now, this was a group of people who had gathered to protest, calling for higher wages. but what's not clear, still, ali, is whether they were targeted because they were protesting or they simply presented a target of opportunity as a group of people who are all together in in a small area. now, he plowed this driver, as you mentioned, a 24 year old afghan. he was seeking asylum here in germany. but officials say they were aware of him. they were familiar with him because of a history of some criminal offenses, including some drug offenses. it's not clear again what his motivation was for doing this, but 28 people were injured, at least in this attack. and as you mentioned, the governor here of

council committee on defense and that security vladimir choose off. thank you. thank you. as for moscow denies having been invited to the munich security conference, which has just kicked off in germany foreign ministry spokesman. re, as a harv, i pointed out that russia has essentially been blacklisted from the event since 2022. but i cease gear. russian officials are not invited to the munich security conference. this decision was made several years ago. it's a politicized decision. it's a strange decision. accordingly, there will be no representatives from the foreign affairs ministry, as well as other official russian structures and bodies. i can tell you that for sure, i'll repeat it again and remind you since the start of the special military operation, russia has not received an invitation to this event. knew of the russian spokeswoman was responding to the us presidents claim of a plan to try lateral discussion in munich. they're having a meeting in munich, and tomorrow russia is going to be there with our people. ukraine is also invited, by the way, i'm not sure exactly who is going to be there from any country, but h

that he gave to the munich security conference, essentially doubling down on his message to your repeating once again and say we don't have shared values. if you lock up people and council elections addressing your all right. i think we're going to go to school. it's not actually if he does have faith to take us. certainly thank you very much for the spanish football federation, present blue through the all this has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a female play. a spends high court has ordered him to pay a fund of just over $10000.00 for kissing jenny him. also with alto consent funding . they will couple in in 2023, but he's been acquitted of co version, prosecute has had demanded a prison sentence for her. to be honest. a name is crickets is a closing in on victory and they're opening champion start of the game against bangladesh. it's in dubai, as india refused to travel to host country pucky stones, bangladesh won the task, chose to bath 1st and was struggling on $35.00 for 5, but then a huge moment, india captain ro, hey, chillman, drew up the catch, which denied access to hendrix and they should cut that suppose 228 with so either way though, it's getting

council counterterrorism project and executive director at flashpoint. andrew was a senior official with the office of the director of national intelligence, so courtney munich was already obviously under heightened security that big conference tomorrow. what more do we know about this attack? >> yeah, i've been at this conference for a number of years now, chris, and it is always one of the ones that has the highest level of security, layer and layer after perimeter of security outside the venue, which is just behind me here. but this year, we may even expect an even higher level of security. so what we know so far is earlier today, a 24 year old afghan man drove his white mini cooper into a crowd of pedestrians at an intersection here in munich. now, the people were gathered there because they were protesting. they were calling for higher wages. but the big question now is, were they targeted because of their protest, or were they simply a target of opportunity for this man who decided that he wanted to cause this, wreak this havoc on these people and this city? now, 28 individuals were injured. we don't know the nature of all of their injuries, but we do know at least several of them are in serious con

council on foreign relations, michael froman. michael also had been in munich over the weekend at the security conference there, where talk of ukrainechael, let's get to your analysis here as to where these where things stand with ukraine. it certainly seems president trump sending a lot of signals that he'd rather deal he and his team deal with putin and the russians and maybe even sideline the ukrainians about their own war. >> well, this. >> was not a great week. if you're a. >> european, i. >> would say earlier. >> in the week, secretary of defense. >> hegseth basically made it clear that u.s. security interests lay more in the. indo-pacific than in europe, and that europe. >> was going to have to step. >> up and take care. >> of its. >> own security. >> much more than it. has in the past. >> and then, of course. >> the announcement. >> of the. talks in saudi arabia, where europe is being excluded. in fact, they received a questionnaire that they're to fill out to lay out what it is that they can do on the security side, including whether they can deploy troops in order to justify their participation in the talks going forward.