host: representative ralph norman, this is dave in new york, independent line. caller: good morning. my comment is this is all about government spending and about waste. but recently, back when they issued those ppp loans, i saw in pro public a list of all the people that got these loans. people that really i don't think need them because they do it by zip code. and they all got forgiven. and i'm wondering what is the strategy there? they say something like less than 23% of them were actually used for payroll protection, and they bought avionics for jet planes and things of that nature. host: so what would you like the guest to address specifically? >> why do we address collecting some of that money? guest: great question. there is money that is unspent from covid that we are going to try to call back and quit paying the debts. covid is over with. you are right, a lot of them did have strings attached to it. a lot of the banks that have the authority to issue the money, it was made to customers. not being paid back is something that should not have been tolerate

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capitol hill to talk about the latest when they come to the budget and other things, represented of ralph normanblican of south carolina and also a member of the budget committee and the house freedom caucus. representative norman, good morning. guest: good morning. host: there reporting this morning that the house freedom caucus has its own vision of a project, can you tell us more? guest: we have two resolutions that really were bored because we haven't been able to get together. i am on the budget committee but we had been able to put anything out. i think that may change, there is a meeting going on now, but the bottom line is the freedom caucus putting on paper in the first is the addresses the deportation and the fact that our military is just way underfunded and the things that are going to the military are not what we need. spending of $200 billion, offset with $486 billion in cuts. cuts like the giveaway student loans. cuts like the mandates. cuts like funding that is illegals can take advantage of now. as a result we are saving 286 billion dollars instead of spending. so the great part

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you've got to keep these budget hawks, people like ralph norman, chip roy and others who are on the mores. well, then also, you've got these moderates who are saying, hang on a second, i can't abide this. where do you go, then? >> well. >> i would say there's. >> always room for negotiation. i think that speaker. johnson's office. >> this week is going to be the hottest spot. >> on capitol. >> hill. >> because lawmakers. >> are going. >> to be just shuffling in and. >> out. >> for those conversations. but you mentioned the. balancing act. it's like a seesaw. you need to balance the both ends of the seesaw like you mentioned. on one end, you have those budget. hawks who said they're not going to support this package unless the bill is deficit neutral. they really want it to be deficit reducing. that requires significant spending cuts. but on the other side of that seesaw, you have these moderates and even folks with large percentages of folks who benefit. from the social safety net programs, who are going to be concerned by those cuts. on the campaign trail, we heard a lot about reducing

i want you to listen to congressman ralph norman, a republican of south carolina. >> to justify. >> where you are, what. >> you do. >> for the. >> last week and the private sector. that would be a they would. >> gladly provide that. >> information because, again, it's. >> the taxpayers. >> paying the bill for the. >> federal workers. >> and the private sector. you do that every day or you don't exist. >> what's your what's your reaction to that argument? >> my reaction is this, you know, we have no issue with providing that information. we provide it every single day. we provide it to the appropriate person, which is in the chain of command. we don't know who this person is or where he falls in that chain of command. matter of fact, we don't think he do at all. so we have no issue providing that information to the appropriate people. and we do that every single day. >> so my understanding of doge is they're they're targeting low productivity workers. is that an issue that you have with their with their mission? >> if that was the real mission we have no problem with if a person is not per

congressman ralph norman, he's a member of the freedom. >> caucus, and. >> he sits on the panel that oversees. >> this budget. >> told me that he wants to see 2 to $5 trillion in cuts. but so far, house leadership has only proposed a few hundred billion. eric burleson, another freedom caucus member, said that lawmakers have reached a precipice when it comes to the debt. >> regardless of how. >> much we cut in taxes, unless we start cutting spending, we're not going to deal with the. >> real problems. >> that are facing. >> america long term. and so i cannot, i can't i'm going. >> to. >> have a. >> really, really. >> hard time getting. >> behind anything. >> that exacerbates. >> our deficit. >> this massive bill is going to be the first big test for this new republican majority to show exactly how serious they are about cutting spending. but johnson and other republican leaders, they are trying to be strategic here because, remember, republicans are using this really unique process that requires them to first agree on the maximum that they can spend, and then go ahead and fill in all

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so youan count me in the cam of m ralph norman. when the government accountability says that the is $5 trillion o defraing the people's government and the people money. you'reot going to hear anybody onhe other side of the aisle, and there's some good people and ll-intended people. but in thiebate you won't hear them talk about illegals being on welfare rolls or the fact their president, president joe biden, with the stroke of a pen welcomed illegals on welfare and health care rolls. we can't even afford social serity benits -- t funds that will be insolvent the next bringing peoe that aren't even citizens on the socialafety nets paid for by taxpayers. and we're not spending that moneythat precious treasure of taxpayers to shore upedicare and socl security. it makes no sense to me. but, you know wha it made no sense to the american people and that's why they gave this president a mandate and gave this country unified republican leadership. now, they're still in denial, apparently, and definitely disconnected from the reality of the

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ralph norman. when the government accountability says that there is $5 trillion of defrauding the people's government and the people's money. you're not going to hear anybody on the other side of the aisle, and there's some good people and well-intended people. but in this debate you won't hear them talk about illegals being on welfare rolls or the fact their president, president joe biden, with the stroke of a pen welcomed illegals on welfare and health care rolls. we can't even afford social security benefits -- the funds that will be insolvent the next 10 years and instead we're bringing people that aren't even citizens on the social safety nets paid for by taxpayers. and we're not spending that money, that precious treasure of taxpayers to shore up medicare and social security. it makes no sense to me. but, you know what, it made no sense to the american people and that's why they gave this president a mandate and gave this country unified republican leadership. now, they're still in denial, ap

ralph norman, who have been the kind of voices who have. demanded more of this package.y stands. >> a better chance of getting through the house overall. >> steph. >> it's not just the. >> house, though. >> where there are these very tough voices and concerns about the budget. >> in the senate. >> rand paul has said he's not going to vote for any budget reconciliation bill that has. fake payfors in it. is that a complicating factor, or one vote in the senate is not a big deal. >> it could be a complicating factor, mostly because anything the senate passes would have to then get through the house. and rand. paul is a pretty good metric for how some. >> of those more deficit. >> conscious republicans in the. house might be thinking. and rand paul told me, you know, he he wants to make sure everything is paid for, and he's not going to accept some of the arguments that that some senators have been making that they should count. ending biden's forgiveness of student loans, saying that that they could count that as kind of money saved. rand paul says that doesn't count. that

norman. >> you go get them, ralph. >> thank you. thank you for forming the doge caus with sessions and others. this is a special day. i want to thank all of my comrades up here. they truly want to make a difference for the american people. never before have we seen what's happening in this country. to have a man like elon musk who has the brainpower along with president trump to find out where our tax dollars are going. that's what he's doing. he's fiing out. he is tracking. never before have we known that. in your family business, and your family itself, youant to know where the money goes. exactly where it's going. elon musk is able to do at. he's getting a lot criticism now because he's a billionaire. i've asked one of my democrat colleagues last night, how did he make his money? was it on a government paycheck? no. was it producing a pduct? yes. was it taking risk? yes. was it sleeping on the floor of his factories? yes. he rested all. he is an example of the american spirit. on our share. capitalism. that's what made this count