i was at seiu, and we really looked at models unsustainable giving and political power that way.learned that the lowest paid worker gives the most. because they knew that unions were fighting for them. now we need to turn that dynamic to the democratic party and do the same. i am going to pick up the phone from a union, a working person far faster than i would from any billionaire out there, because a donation from them represents hundreds if not thousands of people, as opposed to potentially somebody with an ulterior motive. jen: i want to ask you something else, because you have actually run for office, and one of the questions i think you all have been thinking about is how to actually reach voters and have to do it in the right way. the democratic party raise more money than the republican party in 2024 and still lost the senate, did not win back the house, and also lost the residency what are some ideas you have for the formats, forums, ways to communicate as the dnc chair that has not been done today? >> that is an excellent question. we are going to have to beat the opposi